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Astros acquire Carlos Gomez & Mike Fiers

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by J.R., Jul 30, 2015.

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Do you like the trade?

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  2. NO

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  3. I abstain, courteously

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  1. Rockets FTW

    Rockets FTW Member

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    Fiers has a 3.89 ERA in 21 starts. Vast improvement over McHugh.

    The guy is solid. Posted really good numbers in 2013 i believe before an injury?

    Great trade. Those who don't like it because we got rid of BP need to look big picture.
     
  2. awc713

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    does this not worry anyone??? whats the deal? mentally checked out? hurt? i think we gave up too much...someone tell me otherwise

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Simple stat

    Carlos Gomez WAR

    2013 8.5
    2014 4.8
    2015 1.5</p>&mdash; Mark Simon (@msimonespn) <a href="https://twitter.com/msimonespn/status/626614063339040768">July 30, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  3. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Fiers has potential too. He could certainly slip into the rotation with a career 3.50 era. as the 4 or 5. Risky to throw him in there now given our success, but technically he's probably a stronger pitcher than McHugh and possibly even Feldman.
     
  4. Dankush

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    Of course you worry, especially when you consider the Mets said no just yesterday and had a lesser package on the table.
     
  5. The Beard

    The Beard Contributing Member

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    Well if he makes boneheaded plays on the bases, he will fit right in here, lol

    29 years old and coming off three back to back to back 20+ HR 30+ SB seasons
     
  6. tmactoyao

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    He's slightly better than McHugh, but they're on the same tier of pitching. He's our 4.
     
  7. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Astros?src=hash">#Astros</a> official on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Brewers?src=hash">#Brewers</a>’ four-player return: “They did their homework.”</p>&mdash; Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/626907066741977093">July 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The value of international slot #76 sent to Houston from Milwaukee in the trade is $287,500 <a href="https://t.co/ztHquI4p0N">https://t.co/ztHquI4p0N</a></p>&mdash; Jesse Sanchez (@JesseSanchezMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/JesseSanchezMLB/status/626904630056718338">July 30, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Astros?src=hash">#Astros</a> have signed a dozen players on int'l market &amp; now have $500K left to spend on more players. They can also trade remaining slot money</p>&mdash; Jesse Sanchez (@JesseSanchezMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/JesseSanchezMLB/status/626906400057196544">July 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fiers was added at the last minute to get Brett Phillips who was considered an untouchable in Hou system</p>&mdash; Jesse Rogers (@ESPNChiCubs) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNChiCubs/status/626907079383646208">July 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Doug Melvin says deal came together when Astros included Phillips and Brewers included Fiers.</p>&mdash; Adam McCalvy (@AdamMcCalvy) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamMcCalvy/status/626907208769490944">July 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  8. craigharmann

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    The Brewers being garbage probably has something to do with it.
     
  9. robbie380

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    You guys are forgetting about Fiers. That rounds out our rotation.
     
  10. Phillyrocket

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    HRs 2013 24
    HRs 2014 23
    HRs 2015 8

    SBs 2013 40
    SBs 2014 34
    SBs 2015 7

    I'm guessing hurt...:(
     
  11. J Sizzle

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    Don't know enough about the minors, honestly, but sounds like Phillips is a stud. Don't mind, though. Astros are going for it. This is exciting.
     
  12. UTAllTheWay

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    Seems completely backwards to get mad about losing Phillips when we get Carlos Gomez...
     
  13. SS0101

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    I wanna say it was last half of last season that Fiers had a pretty dominant string of about 12 starts to finish the season. And I am not using dominant loosely. Coming into this season he was pretty highly regarded but promptly fell on his face to start the season but has picked it back up to get to respectable numbers. Definitely has good stuff and has that "miss bats" ability. Maybe, maybe he can be moved again if we trade for bullpen help? Doubt it, but I think possible. More likely he is here to limit McCullers and VVs innings.
     
  14. RocketFire

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    so the lineup before Springer returns

    Altuve
    Tucker
    Correa
    Gomez
    Gattis
    Lowrie
    Rasmus/Springer
    Carter/Singleton
    Conger

    Pitchers: Keuchel, Kazmir, Mccullers, Mchugh, Feldman/Fiers
    Bullpen: VV, Shields, Harris, Sipp, Qualls, Gregorson

    What do you guys think? maybe a bullpen and a hope that Singleton gets his act together. I like it.
     
  15. sealclubber1016

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    His 2013 numbers were a fluke, he had some ridiculously good, and unsustainable defensive metrics. In reality he is a 3-4 WAR type of player, and thats basically what his performance this season projects out to.

    His HR/FB rate is down this year, I think a few extra balls are gonna fly out for him and he gets to 20, or close to it.
     
  16. The Beard

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    Yes, missed most of April and was terrible when he first got back
     
  17. SS0101

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    I agree...had we included Phillips in a trade for a rental SP then I would have been upset. I don't like giving up Phillips...but we got Gomez. Gomez is signed through next yr and Phillips would be knocking in door by then. Just don't have room for him. This years draft class also made Phillips more expendable.
     
  18. J.R.

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    Earlier in the day, ha.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Asked whether he's hurt, Carlos Gomez said, &quot;I don't have no problems. I'm playing, and I feel really sexy about it.&quot;</p>&mdash; Adam McCalvy (@AdamMcCalvy) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamMcCalvy/status/626855194782003200">July 30, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Doug Melvin is ticked, but did crack a smile and say, “I heard Carlos say he’s still sexy. I think it’s important for all of us to know.”</p>&mdash; Adam McCalvy (@AdamMcCalvy) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamMcCalvy/status/626884131817955328">July 30, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  19. Bear_Bryant

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    Gomez will be lead off, Altuve 2nd, Tucker will be dropped.
     
  20. samtaylor

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Luhnow says Gomez plugged in right away. He'll be in lineup tomorrow</p>&mdash; Brian McTaggart ⚾️ (@brianmctaggart) <a href="https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/626909443351973888">July 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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