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Astronomers find first evidence of multiple Universes

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  1. KingCheetah

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    Some really interesting science news -- it was only about a hundred years ago that Hubble saw other galaxies for the first time.
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    Astronomers Find First Evidence Of Other Universes

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    There's something exciting afoot in the world of cosmology. Last month, Roger Penrose at the University of Oxford and Vahe Gurzadyan at Yerevan State University in Armenia announced that they had found patterns of concentric circles in the cosmic microwave background, the echo of the Big Bang.

    This, they say, is exactly what you'd expect if the universe were eternally cyclical. By that, they mean that each cycle ends with a big bang that starts the next cycle. In this model, the universe is a kind of cosmic Russian Doll, with all previous universes contained within the current one.

    That's an extraordinary discovery: evidence of something that occurred before the (conventional) Big Bang.

    Today, another group says they've found something else in the echo of the Big Bang. These guys start with a different model of the universe called eternal inflation. In this way of thinking, the universe we see is merely a bubble in a much larger cosmos. This cosmos is filled with other bubbles, all of which are other universes where the laws of physics may be dramatically different to ours.

    These bubbles probably had a violent past, jostling together and leaving "cosmic bruises" where they touched. If so, these bruises ought to be visible today in the cosmic microwave background.

    Now Stephen Feeney at University College London and a few pals say they've found tentative evidence of this bruising in the form of circular patterns in cosmic microwave background. In fact, they've found four bruises, implying that our universe must have smashed into other bubbles at least four times in the past.

    Again, this is an extraordinary result: the first evidence of universes beyond our own.

    So, what to make of these discoveries. First, these effects could easily be a trick of the eye. As Feeney and co acknowledge: "it is rather easy to fifind all sorts of statistically unlikely properties in a large dataset like the CMB." That's for sure!

    There are precautions statisticians can take to guard against this, which both Feeney and Penrose bring to bear in various ways.

    But these are unlikely to settle the argument. In the last few weeks, several groups have confirmed Pernose's finding while others have found no evidence for it. Expect a similar pattern for Feeney's result.

    The only way to settle this will be to confirm or refute the findings with better data. As luck would have it, new data is forthcoming thanks to the Planck spacecraft that is currently peering into the cosmic microwave background with more resolution and greater sensitivity than ever.

    Cosmologists should have a decent data set to play with in a couple of years or so. When they get it, these circles should either spring into clear view or disappear into noise (rather like the mysterious Mars face that appeared in pictures of the red planet taken by Viking 1 and then disappeared in the higher resolution shots from the Mars Global Surveyor).

    Planck should settle the matter; or, with any luck, introduce an even better mystery. In the meantime, there's going to be some fascinating discussion about this data and what it implies about the nature of the Universe. We'll be watching.

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    I never fully understand these things when I read them, but does that mean there are parallel universes like in that one Justice League episode?
     
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    Only a matter of time now.
     
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    why is all this happening? why is anything happening at all? will mcnair fire kubiak? will terrence williams demand to wear #34 in houston when he becomes the centerpiece of a dynasty? does anybody really know what time it is? does anybody really care?
     
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    So this means that every possible outcome IS possible in a parallel universe. So I could be playing in a championship game hitting the buzzer beater for the Rockets. :)
     
  6. rhino17

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    time to give these guys a call

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  7. Wakko67

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    Or the Texans could have a new coach. Or even the same coach with a sound D. Or the Oilers could have never left and Bud could have sold the team. :)

    Or Yao and McGrady could have stayed healthy. :grin:

    Or The Stros could have kept Nolan. Maybe win a World Series. :eek:

    Or we could have drafted Vince Young. :eek:

    Or Hakeem could have left in the nineties. :mad:

    Or I'd still have her. :(

    So many possibilities. :p
     
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    Obligatory: That's no moon..

    Interesting stuff but it does sound very very tentative right now and not much more than speculation on some very sketchy data. It will be interesting to see what comes out the Planck spacecraft.

    On a nerdy side note the latest Stargate Universe had mentioned a similar idea of seeing a pattern embedded in the Cosmic Background Radiation.
     
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    so does that mean that 2012 is for real?
     
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    :eek: These guys will have to change their name and add an "S" at the end now:
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  14. Wakko67

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    Well he's still just master of his universe.
     
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    Yes. It will come after 2011.
     
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    Pretty interesting stuff.

    It's hard to even comprehend it.
     
  17. Raven

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    Laugh Out Loud :grin:
     
  19. Agent94

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    I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think this is talking about parallel universes. I believe it means there was a previous big bang that created a universe that then expanded and died out until it became background radiation. Then there was another big band which created our universe.

    The background radiation should be pretty random, but they found a circular pattern in it which they interpret as a previous universe.
     
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    I'm going to need to see a lot more evidence than some bubbles which may or may not really be in the data before I even take this seriously.
     

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