Anybody Else Sick Of Hearing about BOB's "system?"

The problem is obrien was spoiled by Tom Brady, so he has unrealistic expectations for his QBs.

 

I say this often enough: if Brady is the only one who can run it, your bar is too high.

I honestly don't know how his system works. And to tie it in to patriots successes, I don't see similarities. They don't run slants all day long. They don't have anyone regularly getting open downfield. TE is a barren apocalyptic wasteland comparatively. I think they've square peg/round holed Lamar miller. The OL kinda sucks....I mean it really couldn't be less similar.

Kubiaks system was simplistic and became too predictable but the way it worked wasn't some foreign concept. And it did work, mostly. O'Brien, honestly just seems like a random playbook slapped together.

 

Agreed! Bob has too much ego IMO.

 

Agree 100% adjust to the players on the roster or be gone. This team doesn't have time for it
Love the draft so far.

 

I'm sure Fitz, Hoyer, Brock, etc. would have been amazing in some other system.

 

The Texans had the worst starting QB in the league and they ran the ball the second most of any team. That seems like adjusting to the talent. What did you want them to do? I think BOB is a good coach but bad at talent evaluation.

 

I think part of it is the system being too complex and another part is not getting the talent to fit it.

 

Not amazing but Fitz was pretty good in Stl and then NY, Hoyer was good in Cleveland and then Chicago, Brock was better in Denver than he was in Houston.

 

This. The problem is not "the system". The problem is the lack of talent that has been orchestrating it.

 

The system apparently involves running Lamar Miller up the middle 25+ times per game

 

Which is fine. Fair point. But those systems don't give as much freedom as ours. Certain people thrive when restrained a bit. It's part of the reason college QBs are so hard to project.

 

Yeah ultimately O'Brien doesn't have an extension because of his personnel moves, not his system.

But even when we had Arian, Hopkins and Fitz playing adequately with a good OL it was a very boring system

 

Surely obrien will know to simplify since dealing with a rookie. You would think.

This will be a telling portion of obrien career in how much can his offense genuis be boiled down to consumable bites.

Im not so sure and lets hope watson and obrien flourish if he starts making it overcomplex then yeah something is wrong with dude. And no i personally dont think he is any kind of genius and jury is still out. I know his xo's leave a lot to be desired. His best move so far has been bringing in crennel. Thats his legacy to me so far so this is a big year for mister obrien.

We shall see

 

There is a good interview with greg cosell who I respect mostly because I agree with him on almost everything. =)
It was about Tom Brady being a game manager and taking 5 seasons to become that 'offense'. The jist of it was that you have to allow your Qb to grow into the position. 2002 Tom Brady would not be able to interpret the chinese backwards offense.

And yes Fitzie wouldn't have been great in another system but that's the whole point. The U.G.G playbook had fitzie lining up shotgun from our own 10. What could go possibly wrong? Pittsburgh comes up with the int. After leading by double digits, lead is lost in the span of 4 minutes. where is the aspect of "situational" football.

Driving the ball in O.T because Arian is gashing the cowboys, a "contending" cowboys mind you, the U.G.G playbook now calls for Fitzie in shotgun, empty Backfield without the threat of Arian. What could possibly go wrong.

I even left out that it took 2 full seasons and the demotion of godsey to throw the ball to the TEs. We' were also trying to run a power game with personnel that was strictly zone. The eagles are happy with Brooks and the titans with the cockroach eater, jones meanwhile we replaced Brooks with another lineman that excelled in the zone and we get upset because he struggled in his first year. Continuity is one of the most important part of building one of the best lines.

TLDR version; lineman that are versatile all over the line works for N.E because of how fast and decisively #12 gets rid of the ball. It's sickening how big heads these patriots people get. Their fans act like the 3 plus decades of suckage and being mediocre never happened, the assistant offensive coaches and players think they helped with the genius of hoody and #12.
I loved the 2001 pats for taking out the powerhouse rams now I wish I had a delorean to food poison Mo Lewis so he never injured Bledsoe.
Fock the pats! South side forever! R.I.P D.J screw. pardon my language.

:semi inspired by draftee Takkarist:

 

It has been proven that you don't need a complex offense to win a championship.