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AFC Coaches: Where do you Rank Kubiak?

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  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member
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    I been hearing alot of question of whether Schaub is elite or not

    Is Kubiak Elite? Do you think he is one of the top 6 coaches in the AFC?
    I think by Record he will be. [Playoffs]

    New England Patriots Bill Belichick
    Pittsburgh Steelers Mike Tomlin
    Baltimore Ravens John Harbaugh
    New York Jets Rex Ryan
    The Rest :
    Kubiak
    Buffalo Bills Chan Gailey
    Cincinnati Bengals Marvin Lewis
    Cleveland Browns Pat Shurmur
    Denver Broncos John Fox
    San Diego Chargers Norv Turner
    Seattle Seahawks Pete Carroll
    Tennessee Titans Mike Munchak
    Indianapolis Colts Jim Caldwell
    Jacksonville Jaguars Jack Del Rio
    Kansas City Chiefs Todd Haley
    Miami Dolphins Tony Sparano
    Oakland Raiders Hue Jackson

    I think the playoff teams will be - Patriots, Steelers, Ravens, Jets, Texans, Buffalo [maybe], Chargers [never cut them out]

    I think norv Turner is a complete boob - Kubiak Prototype - Kubiak is the improvement on him
    Chan Gailey is. . Chan Gailey

    Rocket River
     
  2. msn

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    Is he elite?

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

    ...nope.
     
  3. javal_lon

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    I'd think his career would resemble Norv Turner... He's part of that Good Ol Boy Network... But some of them other coaches names are downright depressing..
     
  4. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!
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    I rank him under any coach that has made the playoffs.

    He's doesn't have the excuse of not having talent because he's had more to work with than a lot of coaches.
     
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  5. Rocket River

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    Buffalo Bills Chan Gailey
    Denver Broncos John Fox
    Jacksonville Jaguars Jack Del Rio

    Those are the only three that stand out
    as maybe better [outside THE BIG FOUR at the top]
    I give Chan a bit because he had to work with Jerry Jones
    Fox did have some success in Carolinaa
    Del Rio has had some success

    beyond that . .they rest are just a bunch of guys
    the problem is. . Kubaik is just another guy too.

    Rocket River
    Cowher wins that game yesterday *grin* *snicker*
     
  6. emjohn

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    That's a great call.

    He's not as bad as we make him out to be, and the fact is - truly elite coaches are even more rare than elite QBs.

    I think he's either #5 or #6 among AFC coaches.
     
  7. javal_lon

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    I think he should stick to what he's good at , offensive playcallin though... He could have a long great career as an assistant... Norv is a great OC but is just doesnt cut-it as a HC... But money talks, so Kubes will get plenty of HCing opportunities WHEN he gets fired from Houston... Thats that Good Ol Boy Network!!!
     
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  9. msn

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    This right here.
     
  10. DonnyMost

    DonnyMost clean your room bucko
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    offensive genius, defensive retard, sub par game manager.

    so, whatever "average" is, he's a millimeter below it.
     
  11. weslinder

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    The mastermind:
    Belichick

    The elite:
    Tomlin
    Ryan
    Harbaugh

    The good coaches:
    Fox
    Del Rio
    Caldwell

    The Just-another-guys:
    Kubiak
    Lewis
    Sparano
    Haley

    The jury's still out:
    Munchak
    Jackson
    Shurmur

    The failing experiment:
    Carroll

    The guy who kept great teams from Super Bowls:
    Turner


    Kubiak is an NFL-caliber head coach, but he'll never be a stand-out NFL coach. He'll meet expectations with the talent that he has.
     
  12. J.R.

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    Seahaws/Pete Carroll? AFC? :p
     
  13. msn

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    I like your list, weslinder, with the exception of Pete Carroll :))) and that Kubiak hasn't met expectations with the talent he has, IMO. He's a cut below expectations so far.

    If I'm wrong, and I hope I am: let him prove it. Like, now.
     
  14. moestavern19

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    What Hue Jackson has done with the Raiders offense in a little over a year is incredible. Now we'll see if the defense will follow suit.
     
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    Good call. I was just copying Rocket River's post. Throw Gailey into the JAGs group.
     
  16. Rocket River

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    I am not sold on Caldwell just yet
    He was given the keys to a Caddie
    and
    simply did not run it ff the road.
    This year . . .he will have to coach!
    I don't think he has done anything to help the Colts Defense
    the Offense was the same as it ever was.

    All he had to do was simply not ***** with THE FORMULA
    well .. not Payton is out and the Defense is old.
    His coaching ability is on the line THIS YEAR
    If he can get the Colts to 8-8 he will be considered D*MN GOOD

    Rocket River
     
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    Sorry about the SeaHawks. . ..
    I am just too old school for my own good

    Rocket River
     
  18. Kim

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    Kubiak has not had any more success than Marvin Lewis, and Kubiak has no where near the amount of issues that Lewis has to deal with (cheap owner, criminal players, lack of talent). I don't think Lewis is great, but he's better than Kubiak.

    Kubiak is just a conservative game manager (who doesn't have the dominant defense to justify that type of style) and horrible clock manager. Those things are obvious to me. I can't comment on the X's and O's.
     
  19. DieHard Rocket

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    I look at it this way: there are (1) head coaches who are capable of leading a talented team to a Super Bowl win, (2) coaches who I seriously doubt can lead a team to a Super Bowl win, (3) coaches who pretty obviously can't lead a talented team to a Super Bowl win, and (4) completely unknown/incomplete at this point.

    Kubiak is in that 2nd category and depending on what happens this season might end up in the 3rd with the likes of Norv Turner, Wade Phillips, Marty Schottenheimer, etc. All coaches capable of winning, but ultimately all that matters is Super Bowls and I want a guy that is capable of winning one of those.
     
  20. ima_drummer2k

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    Wow, Del Rio is pretty overrated in this thread. That team hasn't done anything since 2007 and they pretty much quit on him last year. Still can't believe they brought him back.
     
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