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75 Prominent Republicans Sign Pro-Gay Marriage Brief

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  1. rocketsjudoka

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    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...can-leaders-sign-pro-gay-marriage-brief?lite=

    Once 'inconceivable,' Republican leaders sign pro-gay marriage brief
    By Miranda Leitsinger, Staff Writer, NBC News

    Supporters of same-sex marriage hope for a boost this week when dozens of high-profile Republicans, many no longer in office, submit their legal argument to the Supreme Court on why gays and lesbians should be allowed to wed, bucking their party platform.

    In a move described by one scholar as “inconceivable” just two years ago, 75 Republicans have signed the brief to be filed in the case of Proposition 8, a California law banning same-sex marriage, The New York Times reported. The nation’s high court will hear arguments on the law in late March.

    Four former governors, including Jon Huntsman of Utah and Christine Todd Whitman of New Jersey, and members of President George W. Bush’s cabinet, such as former Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez, signed the brief, the Times reported. Some of those, such as Meg Whitman, who ran for California governor in 2010, had once opposed same-sex marriage.

    The brief will be filed Thursday, according to the Human Rights Campaign, a gay rights group.

    Michael Klarman, a Harvard Law School professor and author of “From the Closet to the Altar: Courts, Backlash, and the Struggle for Same-Sex Marriage,” called it an “incredibly important development” and noted the brief could influence Justice Anthony Kennedy, whom he said was the swing vote on gay marriage.

    “The fact that more and more Republicans are coming out in favor of gay marriage simply confirms how dramatic the shift in public opinion has been -- and that is a fact that likely is of great significance to Justice Kennedy,” he wrote to NBC News in an email. “Even two years ago, it would have been inconceivable that this many prominent Republicans would have been willing to buck their party platform on the issue.”

    In an article last week, former Republican presidential candidate Huntsman wrote that as governor he had backed civil unions but now was supporting marriage for gays and lesbians.

    “The party of Lincoln should stand with our best tradition of equality and support full civil marriage for all Americans,” he wrote. “This is both the right thing to do and will better allow us to confront the real choice our country is facing: a choice between the Founders’ vision of a limited government that empowers free markets, with a level playing field giving opportunity to all, and a world of crony capitalism and rent-seeking by the most powerful economic interests.”

    Huntsman’s argument echoed parts of the legal brief, which the Times said made the case that allowing same-sex marriage would promote conservative ideals of limited government and individual freedom as well as provide the children of gay couples a two-parent home.

    The legal brief was dismissed by the National Organization for Marriage, which on Monday pledged $500,000 to defeat Republican lawmakers supporting any law to allow same-sex marriage in Minnesota, a state considering such legislation.

    “None of these people are actively in politics. They are not running for office because they know … supporting same-sex marriage will end your career if you’re a Republican,” he said. “There’s overwhelming support for traditional marriage in the Republican Party, that’s why it’s part of the party platform, and any attempt by the establishment to redefine marriage and redefine what it means to be a conservative will mean the death of the Republican party.”

    But LGBT groups said the brief was further proof of changing attitudes on the issue. Marc Solomon, national campaign director for Freedom to Marry who saw the brief, said the list included Republicans going back to the Reagan administration.

    He noted Meg Whitman’s new position represented a “significant shift,” while others who had signed, such as Republican Representatives Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida and Richard Hanna of New York, have also sponsored federal legislation that would repeal the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), which bars federal recognition of same-sex marriage.

    Steve Schmidt, who worked on the 2004 Bush re-election effort and as chief strategist on Sen. John McCain’s 2008 presidential bid, has been a “powerful supporter” of same-sex marriage, Solomon said.

    “I think most importantly, it’s the broad swath of leaders” on the list, Solomon told NBC News. “We’re no longer just dealing with … one or two ‘mavericks’ who are willing to sort of stick their neck out. …

    “This is a big swath of Republicans, of mainstream Republicans, who view the freedom to marry as part of their conservatism rather than something separate from it.”

    The Supreme Court will also hear arguments in late March on DOMA, which the Obama administration has encouraged the justices to strike down. In its argument, the federal government noted that Proposition 8 and similar measures in other states was evidence that anti-gay discrimination remained a major problem.
     
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    Leading from the rear!
     
  4. LonghornFan

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    Can you guys do Cannabis next? THANKS!
     
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    And then abortion and maybe we can start getting stuff done again in politics.
     
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    Your sodomy joke was not necessary... but appreciated nonetheless.
     
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    Wow, my life has changed significantly because of that incredible article. Seriously, people?! Next news story: some Christian democrats are pro-life.
     
  8. Rashmon

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    As the GOP continues to obfuscate their true colors, the key phrase in that entire article?

    Because you know what would happen if they had to answer for their progressive action in a GOP primary...
     
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    Good start, let's see the words Southern, evangelical and sitting Congressman/Senator in there somewhere.
     
  10. rocketsjudoka

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    Actually in the story it does refer to that the National Organization for Marriage is planning on targeting MN Republican legislators who are planning on supporting the bill legalizing gay marriage in the MN Legislature.

    One of the bill's co-authors is a Republican.
     
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    I really wish it had been Jon Huntsman taking on Obama in November.
     
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    Same.
     
  13. Nextup

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    Lol huge mistake by the republicans. The vocal minority supports gay marriage the silent majority does not.
     
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    Is this like all the skewed polls where people just weren't admitting to liking Romney?
     
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    Your evidence for this proposition would be what exactly?
     
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    CBS News poll. 54% are for........Dated Feb 6-10.

    Google is your friend. Took 3 seconds to find.

    :rolleyes:
     
  17. basso

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    40 young afrikaner men laid down their guns this morning.
    they say they will not take up arms, to fight against their countrymen no more.
    now victory is certain, certain as the sun shines in the sky
    prisoner 46664 said so, a long time ago.
     
  18. juicystream

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    Most Republicans are still against it, but the country as a whole is not.

    It will probably help some and hurt others. I really wish the Republican party would work to make Huntsman the face of the party.
     
  19. Nextup

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    These surveys are skewed. 54 to 46 is up for debate.
     
  20. Rashmon

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    Now, if 6 turned up to be 9,
    I don't mind, I don't mind.
    If all the hippies cut off their hair,
    I don't care, I don't care.
     

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