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3 primary rotation players with 25+ PER

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by durvasa, Dec 16, 2017.

  1. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

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    The Rockets have 3 primary rotation players that currently have a 25+ PER.

    Has that ever been done? I suspect not.

    Edit: In retrospect, this probably didn't need its own thread, which occurred to me after hitting submit.
     
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    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    I don't know, but the ads suggested by this thread are for 3 kinds of scotch tape, and a CD called "Nothing's Gonna Change My Love For You".
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    Also, who is the third? Capela?
     
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    durvasa Contributing Member

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    Both Chris Paul and Capela are free agents after this year?

    Man, I'd really like to keep this trio together.
     
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    durvasa Contributing Member

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    Yep. Capela.
     
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    heypartner Contributing Member

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    David West is only at 13 mpg, but that's 3 Warriors, right now. Durant, Curry and West

    Other than that, spot checking some historical teams, I couldn't find anyone close.
     
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    I think it's a perfectly good thread topic. Nice find!
     
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    durvasa Contributing Member

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    Here's my basketball-reference query:

    http://bkref.com/tiny/1nF8d

    Looking for instances where a player had a 25+ PER, played 20+ mpg, and played at least 300 minutes for his team. Sort by team, and then by season.

    Here are the only cases I found:

    80/81: Kareem and Magic
    02/03: Kobe and Shaq
    10/11: Wade and LeBron
    11/12: Wade and LeBron
    14/15: Durant and Westbrook
    15/16: Durant and Westbrook
    17/18 (so far): Harden, Paul, and Capela
    17/18 (so far): Durant and Curry

    Harden, Paul, and Capela -- best big three ever? Certainly most under the radar. :)
     
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    So how good is Capela? All-star? 1st Team Defense? He's been a revelation this season. He's top 5 in FG%, Reb and Blocks. Clint has to be in the conversation for best Center in the league doesn't he?
     
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    Honestly, I don't think he's an all-star (in the West) or 1st team defense. I'm just excited about how efficient he has been and how well he's played his role on our team.
     
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    It’s funny and I understand it because he’s a center, but Clint’s strength is offense not defense.

    He’s an efficiency monster and a stud PnR roll man who is good at setting screens. Meanwhile, he is an above average defender for his position but nothing spectacular.

    He’s closer to 1st team offense than he is 1st team defense.
     
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    He's a very good rebounder also.

    But ya he's just an average defender who can block shots at a pretty high level. Def needs to clean up some rotations but I think he's showing improvement on that end.
     
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    Sucks for Westbrook
     
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    TheRealAllpro Morey only fan

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    I can believe ppl still use PER. It's a really bad stat that inflates big men. Real Plus minus is much better.
     
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    TheRealAllpro Morey only fan

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    durvasa Contributing Member

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    I enjoyed the video. Thanks for posting.

    As "all-in-one" player rating stats go, I think PER is a big improvement over the stuff that preceded it like the NBA EFF rating, because unlike that one it accounted for minutes, pace, and used well-reasoned weights for the individual stats that go into it.

    The problem is its tempting to use PER in a lazy way to compare players and conclude "player A is better than player B because he has a higher PER". I may have fallen into that trap in the past as well. When Hollinger was writing his articles at NY Sun, and CNNSI, and ESPN, he did a great job of contextualizing player performance and explaining why a player ended up with a particular PER.
     
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