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  1. Rashmon

    Rashmon Contributing Member

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    I think the key to our draft is finding a list of all the tight ends left on the board.
     
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    Yeah...It's an interesting idea, but Peter King is an idiot. Rodgers is also pretty untradable right now because of the dead money and contract issues. Unless he's on an absolute all-out tear to get out of GB, I just don't see it happening. NE makes sense...as does DAL...this has Jerry written all over it. Reunion with McCarthy, plus weapons like Zeke, Cooper, Gallup and CeeDee...stays in conference...
     
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    That #57 is looking awful nice right now............aww who am I kidding?
    There could be 31 1st round worthy players available and I'd STILL be sweating!!!
     
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    Per sources, the Bengals are actively exploring trading down from the 33rd overall pick, even with a couple guys there (Ross Blacklock, Josh Jones, etc.) they like. Indy looking to go down from the 34th spot, too.

    Lots of depth in the second round = movement on trades.

    — Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) April 24, 2020




    The #Patriots and #Colts are two teams looking to trade down for more picks on Day 2 of the draft, according to AlbertBreer

    Patriots currently have 5 picks on Day 2. Colts have 3 such picks.

    The #Jaguars, #Broncos and #Falcons are teams looking to trade up.

    — Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) April 24, 2020
    In addition to the #Falcons, #Jaguars and #Broncos, the #Saints are also looking to trade up.
     
  7. skenney1993

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    Peter King reported Hopkins being heavily shopped and Hop got traded hours later
     
  8. Dubious

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    Last second guess: Marlon Davidson
    hedge bet: Antonio Whitfield
     
  9. coachbadlee

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    Grab your popcorn!! Its almost time for the Bill O'Brien show!!!!
     
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    Palmer thinks we go Safety, pass rusher, or DL help but also BOB thinks this the best team Deshaun has had so could be BPA as well
     
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    Mine would : Madubuike
    b. X. McKinney
     
  13. JayGoogle

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    Someone will trade up right before the Texans, as is tradition.
     
  14. J.R.

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    33. Bengals - WR Tee Higgins

    Dane Brugler: Higgins’ basketball background shows at the catch point, playing above the rim with twitchy reflexes. However, he doesn’t have the lower body suddenness, speed or savvy to easily separate from press or at the top of patterns, which creates the question: can he mature into more than an athletic jump ball weapon? Overall, Higgins needs to get stronger and continue maturing as a route runner, but his athletic tracking skills and ability to utilize every inch of his frame and expand his catch radius are playmaking traits.

    Bob McGinn/Anonymous Scouts: More than one personnel man identified him as having the best hands in the draft. “He’s an outside-only guy,” one scout said. “He’s a contested, 50-50 ball guy with strong hands and a big catching radius. He may need some help getting open, but he can catch it. He’s going to be covered a lot but he’s got the catching radius.” Arms measured a position-best 34 1/8 but hands were a small 9 ¼. “Just worried about the 40 time and his inability to separate,” said another scout. “They match up. He is really good down the field going up and getting the football. But getting off press, which you don’t see a lot at the college level, for a guy that isn’t real twitchy, he’ll have to win with size at the line of scrimmage. I think eventually he’ll be able to do it, but it’s going to be a transition for him.” Caught 135 passes for 2,448 (18.1) and 27 TDs. “Behind Ruggs, he’d be my next pick to bust,” a third scout said. “For a big, athletic kind of guy I don’t think he plays very strong. I don’t think he plays very sudden. And I don’t think he’s very tough. For the type of receiver he has to be, being that big guy making plays over people, I just don’t see that grit and toughness that you need. I wasn’t surprised at all (by the slow 40). He’s a buildup (speed) guy. Lot of that (production) was scheming him.” Wonderlic of 11. From Oak Ridge, Tenn.

    BACKGROUND: Tamaurice “Tee” Higgins (named after his grandfathers) grew up in Oak Ridge (20 miles west of Knoxville) and was a two-sport star at Oak Ridge High School. A four-year starter at receiver, he became the first freshman to start at Oak Ridge since 2002, posting 23 catches for 387 yards and six touchdowns as a sophomore. Higgins was named Tennessee’s Mr. Football as a junior and senior, posting 46 catches for 841 yards and 16 touchdowns as a junior in 2015. As a senior, he was a second-team All-American with 68 receptions for 1,044 yards and 18 scores, adding three punt return touchdowns and another on an interception return. A standout on the basketball court, Higgins was a finalist for Tennessee’s Mr. Basketball as a junior, averaging 15.0 points and 6.6 rebounds per game in 2015-16.

    A five-star wide receiver recruit out of high school, Higgins was the No. 2 wide receiver in the country (one spot behind Donovan Peoples-Jones and one spot ahead of Jerry Jeudy), the No. 3 recruit in the state of Tennessee and the No. 19 recruit overall. He considered offers from Alabama, Florida State and Ohio State before narrowing his list to Clemson and Tennessee. Growing up in a family of Volunteers fans, Higgins initially verballed to Tennessee before flipping to Clemson the summer before his senior year. He was the highest-ranked recruit in the Tigers’ 2017 class. Higgins also received basketball scholarships from several well-regarded hoops programs like Auburn, Louisville and Tennessee. His older sister (KeKe Stewart) played college basketball at Middle Tennessee (2010-14). His mother (Camillia “Lady” Stewart) battled a crack cocaine addiction for 16 years, including stints in jail, but she has been clean since 2007. Higgins elected to skip his senior year and enter the 2020 NFL Draft.

    STRENGTHS: Long, rangy build with room to get stronger…big-time ball skills and body control with quick-twitch reflexes…extraordinary highpoint and adjustment skills at every level, providing a large strike zone for the quarterback…plays with toughness over the middle, taking hits and holding onto the football…long-striding speed to stack corners vertically (five catches of 50-plus yards in 2019)…routes improved each season, introducing tempo in/out of the drive phase…nifty feet to slip past the jam…plays with a scorer’s mentality, combining for 25 touchdown passes the last two seasons — only player in school history with back-to-back seasons of double-digit touchdown grabs…didn’t miss a start the last two seasons.

    WEAKNESSES: Leaner than ideal with unimpressive muscle definition…play strength is average-at-best…fights for every yard as a ball carrier, but wasn’t a productive YAC target in college (averaged only 5.6 YAC per reception in college)…doesn’t consistently sink/explode out of his breaks…lacks the separation quickness to easily uncover at the top of routes…soft as a blocker, doing the bare minimum and barely slowing down defenders…played only 49.9% of snaps the last two seasons (despite starting every game) due to Clemson’s early leads and depth at the position.

    SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Clemson, Higgins was a starting wide receiver in head coach Dabo Swinney’s shotgun spread scheme, lining up inside and outside on either side of the formation. He was a big-play creator with a nose for the end zone in college, finishing his career tied with DeAndre Hopkins and Sammy Watkins for the most receiving touchdowns (27) in school history. Higgins’ basketball background shows at the catch point, playing above the rim with twitchy reflexes. However, he doesn’t have the lower body suddenness, speed or savvy to easily separate from press or at the top of patterns, which creates the question: can he mature into more than an athletic jump ball weapon? Overall, Higgins needs to get stronger and continue maturing as a route runner, but his athletic tracking skills and ability
    to utilize every inch of his frame and expand his catch radius are playmaking traits.
     
  15. Commodore

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    waiting for the inevitable Texans cockblock by some team trading up one spot in front of us
     
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    Darn!
    I really like Pittman!
    Now we'll see him twice a year.
     
  17. J.R.

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    34. Colts - Michael Pittman Jr., WR, USC

    Dane Brugler: With his large hands and powerful attack skills, Pittman makes plays over defenders and doesn’t fight the football, recording only two drops on 140 targets in 2019. He is an athletic route runner, but lacks dynamic start/stop burst to quickly create separation or be a consistent YAC threat. Overall, Pittman is a strong-framed pass catcher and although he has only average speed by NFL standards, he wins with physicality and focus at the catch point, projecting as a reliable possession target at all three levels in the NFL.

    Bob McGinn/Anonymous Scouts: His father, Michael, played 11 years as an NFL running back gaining 5,627 yards (4.0 average) and scoring 25 TDs. “Doesn’t get a lot of love because he’s on the West Coast,” said one scout. “But he’s a big-body guy that belongs in the top-10 conversation (at wideout). Tough guy in traffic.” Started 30 of 48 games over four seasons, catching 171 passes for 2,519 (14.7) and 19 TDs. “Same type of guy as Bryan Edwards,” a second scout said. “Makes most of his catches in traffic. Strong after the catch. He surprised me with his speed. He and (Tee) Higgins are basically the same guy. Higgins played with a better team. I remember Pittman’s father in the Super Bowl when he played hard and tough even though the Raiders got beat badly. The son has that type of attitude as well. It’s going to be tough to stop him.” He led the leading wideouts with a Wonderlic of 29 and hails from Woodland Hills, Calif.

    BACKGROUND: Michael Pittman Jr. played mostly quarterback and running back growing up before (reluctantly) switching to wide receiver and safety at Oaks Christian. As a junior, he caught 47 passes for 914 yards and 12 scores, earning All-Area honors on defense with 43 tackles and three interceptions. Pittman posted 31 tackles and one interception in 2015, but emerged as a better offensive player as a senior with 81 catches for 1,990 yards and 24 scores, earning multiple AllAmerican honors.

    A four-star wide receiver recruit, Pittman was a top-10 ranked recruit at wideout and in the state (also recruited as a safety/linebacker), initially committing to UCLA. However, Pittman backed off that declaration after more programs offered him, ultimately choosing USC over Oregon and enrolling in January 2016. He hoped to play both ways as a safety on defense, but former offensive coordinator Tee Martin nixed that plan. Pittman’s father (Michael Pittman) was a fourth-round running back (No. 95 overall) out of Fresno State in the 1998 NFL Draft and played 11 seasons in the NFL, collecting 5,627 rushing yards and 3,512 receiving yards over his career. His younger brother (Mycah) is a rising true sophomore wide receiver at Oregon. Pittman accepted his invitation to the 2020 Senior Bowl.

    STRENGTHS: Soft, accepting hands with excellent grip strength…well-developed physique with very good height and length…excellent focus to track, highpoint and finish away from defenders…smooth body control and comfortable catching the ball over his shoulder on deep shots…clean releases and doesn’t get hung up near the line of scrimmage…physical after the catch and not easy to ground…does the dirty work on the perimeter, relying on his frame and strong hands…well-versed and productive on special teams coverages (17 tackles, three blocked punts, one punt return touchdown)…voted a 2019 team captain and USC coaches speak highly of his personal and football character (Pittman Sr.: “I wanted to be the best player on the field…my kids, they’re the same way”)…set career-bests as a senior, finishing as one of only four FBS receivers with 100-plus receptions in 2019.

    WEAKNESSES: Average speed player…was able to stack defenders mid-route in college, but doesn’t have the explosiveness to consistently do that vs. patient NFL corners…not an electric creator after the catch — more likely to pick up yards with power rather than athleticism…handsy at the top of routes and will be flagged for pushing off to aid his separation…battled through a litany of injuries in college, including a broken collarbone (January 2016), hand surgery (January 2017), high left ankle sprain (August 2017), broken nose (August 2017) and shoulder surgery (January 2019).

    SUMMARY: A three-year starter at USC, Pittman was the “X” receiver in offensive coordinator Graham Harrell’s spread scheme, lining up primarily outside the numbers to the left of the formation. He emerged as the team’s go-to weapon as a senior, doing his best work in the second half of the season (61.4% of his 2019 receiving production) when his team needed a play the most. With his large hands and powerful attack skills, Pittman makes plays over defenders and doesn’t fight the football, recording only two drops on 140 targets in 2019. He is an athletic route runner, but lacks dynamic start/stop burst to quickly create separation or be a consistent YAC threat. Overall, Pittman is a strong-framed pass catcher and although he has only average speed by NFL standards, he wins with physicality and focus at the catch point, projecting as a reliable possession target at all three levels in the NFL
     
  18. jev5555

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  19. whag00

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    Nice. 3 picks in and 3 offensive players drafted. Keep pushing those defensive guys down.
     
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    35. Lions - D’Andre Swift, RB, Georgia

    Dane Brugler: Swift is a patient athlete with the short-area explosiveness and speed to pick, slide and juke, making him tough to tackle one-on-one. He needs to clean up some inconsistencies in passing situations, but defenders lose him as a receiver and effort isn’t a concern in pass protection. Overall, Swift has the uncanny ability to make defenders miss and runs with the instinctive ability to quickly survey and create positive yardage, projecting as a feature back in the NFL if he stays healthy.

    Bob McGinn/Anonymous Scouts: Swift followed in the footsteps of recent top backs Todd Gurley, Sony Michel and Nick Chubb at Georgia. “Dalvin Cook isn’t a bad comparison,” said one scout. “He’ll be a stud.” He was limited to 440 carries and 73 receptions because of leg and foot injuries during his three-year career. “Even this year they didn’t let him carry the load when he was the No. 1 back,” said another scout. “When I compare him to successful NFL backs, he’s not elite in any category. He is more well-rounded than Dalvin Cook. He’s a better route runner. He’s got better hands. But Cook’s one-cut vision and acceleration are better, and he’s bigger. Swift can line up and run choice routes. He can track the ball down the field. He’s got three-down value.” Gained 2,885 yards for a school-record 6.56 per carry. Another personnel man said Swift wasn’t as good as Cook or Chubb. “He’s the only back (in the draft) that really scares you in the pass game,” a fourth scout said. “That’s why he’s going to go higher. He can create mismatches in the pass game, he’s a good runner and he tested well.” Swift is from Philadelphia and scored 17 on the 12-minute, 50-question Wonderlic intelligence test.

    BACKGROUND: D’Andre Swift started playing football at the Pop Warner level and it was clear at an early age that he had a bright future in the sport. He enrolled at St. Joseph’s Prep in North Philadelphia and was part of three state championships in his four years of high school. Swift saw immediate action as a freshman and turned himself into a rising college recruit, rushing for 1,029 yards and 12 touchdowns as a junior. His best season came as a senior with 1,564 yards and 34 total touchdowns in only 11 games, leading the program to the first 14-0 season. Swift finished his prep career with 4,112 career rushing yards and earned All-State player of the year and U.S. Army All-American honors in 2016. He also started running track at 10 years old, setting personal-bests at St. Joseph’s in the 60 meters (7.11) and 200 meters (24.66).

    A five-star running back out of high school, Swift was the No. 4 rated running back in the country (behind Najee Harris, Cam Akers and Stephen Carr) and the No. 1 recruit in the state of Pennsylvania. Despite growing up in Big Ten country, he always wanted to play in the SEC and fell in love with Athens and the running back tradition at Georgia, committing to the Bulldogs over offers from Alabama, Clemson and Penn State. Swift elected to skip his final season of eligibility and enter the 2020 NFL Draft.

    STRENGTHS: Dynamic feet and controlled movements to string moves together…outstanding vision and feel, sensing developing lanes…makes defenders miss without gearing down…sudden start-stop acceleration, regaining his speed post-cut in a flash…shows a takeoff gear when the runway presents itself…easy body control and spins off contact…compact power and runs more physical than he looks…gravitates towards space as a pass catcher, giving his quarterback clear throwing windows…tracks the ball well…catches the ball without breaking stride…not only twitchy as a runner, but also in pass protection, adjusting to moving targets…plays hurt and competes with considerable toughness…consistently productive in the SEC, going over 1,000 yards rushing each of the last two seasons.

    WEAKNESSES: Workable frame and build, but doesn’t have ideal body armor for the position…bad habit of stopping his feet when he hits congestion…inconsistent finisher and needs to better set up his second-level moves…bad habit of dropping his eyes/head to chop down in pass pro, but misses…wasn’t asked to be a workhorse in college (only three games of 20-plus carries in 43 career games)…nagging injuries, including a shoulder contusion (November 2019) that limited him down the stretch (six combined touches in the SEC Title Game and Sugar Bowl); battled through groin, toe and ankle issues as a sophomore; underwent surgery on both groins to repair microtears after his freshman season (January 2018); missed three games as a senior in high school due to a right ankle injury (September 2016).

    SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Georgia, Swift was the feature back in former offensive coordinator James Coley’s pro-style spread. He played a key role in three straight SEC Eastern Division titles for the Bulldogs and finished his career No. 1 in school history with 6.56 yards per carry, just ahead of Todd Gurley's 6.44. Swift is a patient athlete with the short-area explosiveness and speed to pick, slide and juke, making him tough to tackle one-on-one. He needs to clean up some inconsistencies in passing situations, but defenders lose him as a receiver and effort isn’t a concern in pass protection. Overall, Swift has the uncanny ability to make defenders miss and runs with the instinctive ability to quickly survey and create positive yardage, projecting as a feature back in the NFL if he stays healthy.
     

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