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2019 Texans Head Coaching Prospects

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by rockets94-95, Jan 5, 2019.

  1. J.R.

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    (...but still not coming here or maybe going anywhere?)

     
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    Yeah, all I'm saying is that BOB hasn't shown that...in big games...he's competent.

    Since the playoffs are all big games then I cannot seriously believe that he'll ever be a good post-season coach. He feels like another Marvin Lewis where he'll have some good regular seasons and his team will flame out in the post season.

    We're going to know all we need to know about BOB this offseason...other teams are trying to look at shuffling their staff and I've heard little about the Texans doing anything but there's still lots of time.

    I just think it's pretty clear by now that BOB isn't going to get it done here. I'd love to be proven wrong though.
     
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    Why do teams continue to hire Patriot coaches?

     
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    Loyalty has always been Kubiak's weakness
     
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    "Why haven't you fired Frank Bush yet?"

    "Because I believe in him John."

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    Everybody getting coordinators


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    If Jacksonville gets Kubs and Flacco we're ****ed
     
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    Other then yelling at Brady I did not get the O’Brien hire and now 5 yrs in it shows that all he did was yell at Brady I mean who can’t be the OC for the best QB ever
     
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    Agreed. If the Texans stick with BOB they could end up in last place in the AFC South.
     
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    No, look again.

    He's said two things here beyond what you claim he said: (1) "A new coach could literally be the difference between having another mediocre season or going to the superbowl" and (2) "the Colts have shown" that "things change drastically from season to season".

    Both of these things are true, but what he wants you to take away is that "the Colts have shown" that "a new coach could literally be the difference between having another mediocre season or going to the superbowl", which is not true. Furthermore, his first point is uninteresting because it says nothing. After all, anything can "literally be the difference", but how often does a new coach make that difference? His second point is true, but the Texans showed the same, or better, this year without a coaching change.

    So to summarize, he said that we already know B'Ob won't get the Texans to a SB (false) and implied that the Colts have shown that a coaching change could be the difference in getting to a SB (also false), so the point you're arguing against is, in fact, true. He advocates for firing the coach because we could make the SB by doing so.

    You're right, it's very hard to argue that he thinks that, as do you, but that doesn't mean it's true. No one posting in forums can possibly have the insight to know anything like this. Arguing a coach's performance without any consideration of the specifics of his tenure is a waste of time. That's exactly what you are doing.

    This is another recurring theme that armchair GM's love to trot out. Strength of schedule is overemphasized and difficult to predict.

    Last year, for example, people were claiming the Texans would have a soft schedule this year, which turns out in hindsight to not be wrong. It was not right, either. Why? Because the logic was that beyond a few hard games, including 4 games against final 4 teams last year, they played no strong teams. As it turned out, though, 3 of those 4 games against contenders last year turned out to be softer than expected, yet the Texans still lost 2 of them. No one considered that the Colts or Titans could possibly be competitive either. In other words, competition is hard to predict because "in the NFL things change drastically from season to season". You know, that point that you don't mind when it suits the narrative?
     
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    Kubiak's run with the Texans suggests otherwise. FWIW Kubiak does not game play his offense against opponents, which is very problematic in the playoffs (and for in division games where your opponent fully knows you).
     
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    It’s unbelievable how the NFL still hasn’t come to this realization. Doesn’t matter offense or defense either. Romeo, McDaniels, Mangenius, BoB, Patricia all combining for a way below .500 record.
     
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    People need to realize

    1. BOB isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
    2. Kubiak is an avg HC and was a really good OC.

    For those that think changing to a HC like Riech means the Texans would do better in the playoffs, does that mean the new HC gets to bring along Luck and the Colts OL with the new HC?
     
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    It seems to me like over time, O'Brien has abandoned his philosophy of game planning and adjusting for every opponent and has become more predictable, perhaps even more than Kubes was.
     
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