2017 Spring Training

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  1. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Contributing Member

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    So... the Astros are starting out with 59 players in major league camp and they have until April 3 to trim that number to 25. This post is going to be a tracker throughout the spring to see who's been cut until that we reach that magic number.

    I wasn't sure whether to post this in the 25-man roster prediction thread.

    Italics - non-roster invitee

    Current status as of February 25: 59 players

    Pitchers

    Kevin Chapman
    Chris Devenski
    Dayan Diaz
    Michael Feliz
    Mike Fiers
    Edison Frias
    Ken Giles
    Luke Gregerson
    Reymin Guduan
    Jandel Gustave
    Will Harris
    Brian Holmes
    James Hoyt
    Jordan Jankowski
    Dallas Keuchel
    Francis Martes
    Lance McCullers
    Collin McHugh
    Charlie Morton
    Joe Musgrove
    David Paulino
    Brad Peacock
    Tyson Perez
    C.J. Riefenhauser

    Brady Rodgers
    Tony Sipp
    Cy Sneed
    Ashur Tolliver
    Aaron West

    Catchers


    Juan Centeno
    Evan Gattis
    Tyler Heineman
    Brian McCann
    Max Stassi
    Garrett Stubbs

    Infielders

    Jose Altuve
    Alex Bregman
    Reid Brignac
    Carlos Correa
    J.D. Davis
    Marwin Gonzalez
    Yulieski Gurriel
    Colin Moran
    A.J. Reed
    Jon Singleton
    Tyler White

    Outfielders

    Nori Aoki
    Andrew Aplin
    Carlos Beltran
    D.J. Fisher
    Alejandro Garcia

    Teoscar Hernandez
    Jon Kemmer
    Tony Kemp
    Ramon Laureano
    Jake Marisnick
    Josh Reddick
    George Springer
    Preston Tucker
     
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  2. Buck Turgidson

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    How about 40?
     
  3. juicystream

    juicystream Contributing Member

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    The 40 man is perpetual, while the 25 man roster really only exists in season. I don't think there is any requirement to trim a spring training roster.
     
  4. xcrunner51

    xcrunner51 Contributing Member

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    Random question. What's the deal with Brad Peacock? He's getting a fair amount of mentions in ST. I know he's out of options but are there really so few other ST questions that it's really a big deal if Peacock gets waived? He wouldn't be some coup for another organization by any means.
     
  5. No Worries

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    Peacock did pitch well for the Astros at end of last season. SSS and all. The Astros want to see if he has turned a corner in his MLB career, by giving him an extended ST look.

    If he shows well, he might become the favorite for the last spot in the bullpen.

    Or the Astros could send Peacock to the Brewers and watch he pitch like Cy Young.
     
  6. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Contributing Member

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    Not every team has 5 starters much less the 7-10 needed during the season. I doubt he makes Astros, but they are likely trying to show he's worth a lottery ticket. I expect Astros end up trading him for cash to a team in the NL.
     
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    I'm surprised that they think he wouldn't just make it through waivers if outrighted at the end of ST.
     
  8. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Contributing Member

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    Rangers for one are looking to start season with AJ Griffin and his 5.74 FIP in 100+ innings last season until (if) Ross is ready.
     
  9. Snake Diggit

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    I consider it incredibly unlikely that he makes it through waivers. He was a pretty highly touted prospect at one point and his MLB track record while not great hasn't been a disaster by any stretch; he's a live arm and quite a few teams need back end starters or long relievers. The only question is if he makes the Astros bullpen, is traded for a fringe prospect or ptbnl, or traded for cash.
     
  10. Buck Turgidson

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    At the end of last ST, Dan Strailly got traded for by one team and then claimed off waivers by another 4 days later. Pretty much no chance Peacock makes it through.
     
  11. jev5555

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    Rangers always sifting through Astros garbage.
     
  12. jim1961

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    Spacemoth Contributing Member

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    I almost never put any credence into pitching stats in spring training. All those guys are working on a pitch or two, trying to locate it and bring it out on demand. Unless they're fighting for a job, few of them have any concern about trying to disrupt the batters' rhythm or expectation as to what pitch will come next. They're not pitching to get outs, so to speak.

    Batting stats have a bit more reliability in my experience. You're out there seeing pitches and trying to put wood on it. Just like the regular season luck may play a big role, but still...you have ONE JOB. A hot guy in spring training often carries it over into the season.
     
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    Around a dozen of them are obviously not succeeding at it.
     
  16. Joe Joe

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    Odd. I have the opposite view. Batters are going up there to hit and face a wide range of pitching quality. Hard to judge their stats as it could be padded against non-mlb pitchers, pitchers working on stuff, or pitchers still working on endurance. Pitchers that strike out a ton of hitters usually carry that to regular season ( not always, e.g. Woj). MLB Pitchers that pitch poorly in spring usually means little.
     
  17. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Contributing Member

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    Astros projected rotation...ERA 1.28.

    Devenski is only likely opening day player to give up more than 1 run. Devenski and Paulino are only two pitchers expected to provide value this year in majors to give up more than 1 run.
     
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  18. jim1961

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    Here is the thing. One would think that the teams with the better farms would fair better in early ST given thats when they (farm hands) get the most opportunity. As far as all the other excuses I am hearing for our poor play, they all apply to the opposing teams as well.

    The above said, we are dead last in team ERA and 23rd in team OPS.
    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/stats/...-season-preseason-category-pitching-type-team

    For those about to say it, sure, these numbers have little to no bearing on the team that will start the regular season. Agreed. But it says something about something :) It either says the extra guys invited to ST were the wrong ones, were not ready, or were not as good as we thought.
     
  19. juicystream

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    We have had a lot of pitchers who aren't expected to be anything.
     
  20. jim1961

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    And so we invited them to ST because?
     
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