2017 NFL Combine and Workouts Thread - News and Notes

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Nimo, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. PhiSlammaJamma

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 1999
    Messages:
    21,283
    Likes Received:
    1,642
    Fournette was also dropping passes. but I still like.

    Where is Greg Ward Jr.?

    The Ross 40 record is weird because the Chris Johnson shadow was still faster to the finish line. Either way it doesn't matter. He's fast. When Chris Johnson and Deion hit the NFL those 40 times translated into BIG plays, like 60 yards or more multiple times. I like.
     
  2. Yaosthirdleg

    Yaosthirdleg Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2016
    Messages:
    797
    Likes Received:
    684
    http://draftanalyst.com/five-players-watch-during-sunday’s-workout-and-eight-observations-saturday


    Eight Observations from Day 2

    1) Deshaun Watson had a terrific day while Mitch Trubisky and Davis Webb looked sharp at times, but overall it was not a good day for the signal callers. As one veteran of several combines said to me, “I’ve never seen so many passes hit the ground.”

    2) It’s really too bad Jerod Evans did not return to Virginia Tech for another season. Had he done so and improved his game, he could’ve been a first-round pick in 2018. He offers superior arm strength and made some amazing throws Saturday. On other occasions, he looked pedestrian at best.

    3) DeShone Kizer needs a lot of technical work, and I mean a lot. His footwork and foot placement are terrible at times. He hurt himself here Saturday.

    4) I graded Isaiah Ford as a late fourth-round pick and may have overrated him. There is nothing special about his game, and the inability to run faster than 4.64s at 194 pounds is going to kill his draft stock.

    5) As reported Friday, expect major red flags to start popping up on Dede Westbrook for his lack of participation here and at the Senior Bowl.

    6) I reported Friday that several teams had Evan Engram and David Njoku neck-and-neck on their tight end boards. I’ve since learned Engram has passed Njoku on a few of those boards.

    7) Adam Shaheen is going to be selected earlier in the draft than many expect. He caught the ball very well Saturday, and his ability to time under 4.8s in the 40 at 278 pounds was impressive.

    8) What impressed me most about Gerald Everett was his route-running on Saturday. He was quick and crisp into routes in addition to running well and doing a good job catching the ball.
     
  3. Yaosthirdleg

    Yaosthirdleg Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2016
    Messages:
    797
    Likes Received:
    684
    I wouldn't judge Fuller after just one season which wasn't even that bad (47 catches for 635 yards) especially for a rookie receiver with a terrible QB and offensive system. The same system and QB made Hopkins, an absolute stud, look quite mediocre. I think Fuller has the chance to be a real playmaker. Ross is an explosive player but he has his flaws as well. He, like Fuller, struggles against physical corners and has small hands. And he has had major injuries to both knees already. He had microfracture surgery after the 2014 season and acl surgery prior to the 2015 season.
     
    zeeshan2 and EddieWasSnubbed like this.
  4. EddieWasSnubbed

    EddieWasSnubbed Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2002
    Messages:
    15,366
    Likes Received:
    1,727
    Ross may be a more complete receiver coming out of college, but his smaller frame, playing in a physical league, already being rocked by lower body injuries, scares me.

    I mean, the guy has had multiple lower body injuries. He had to pull out of the rest of the combine drills after running the 40, because his calves tightened up on him for Christ's sake. That's got to draw some red flags.

    Meanwhile, the greatest receiver of all time ran a 4.71 40.

    Speed, often times - especially straight line, non padded speed - is overrated.
     
    Yaosthirdleg and zeeshan2 like this.
  5. ipaman

    ipaman Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2002
    Messages:
    8,351
    Likes Received:
    1,634
    If we can't one of the big names early I would take a flyer on Joshua Dobbs. I watched the combine highlights of all the guys and I thought he looked great.
     
  6. Commodore

    Commodore Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    21,323
    Likes Received:
    3,998
  7. Nimo

    Nimo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2012
    Messages:
    7,727
    Likes Received:
    1,319
    TJ looks small
     
  8. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    24,149
    Likes Received:
    9,391
    Some 3 cone times for edge guys

    Derek Rivers- 6.94

    Solomon Thomas- 6.96

    Derek Barnett- 6.96

    Taco Charlton- 7.17

    Tarell Basham- 7.27

    Tim Williams- 7.36

    Carl Lawson- 7.46

    Charles Harris- 7.47

    Takkarist McKinley- 7.48
     
  9. PhiSlammaJamma

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 1999
    Messages:
    21,283
    Likes Received:
    1,642
    If I'm Ross, play Nike against Adidas and get yourself something out of it. I'm sure Adidas would consider giving him a smaller island for switching up. And Nike could definitely get some press for ponying up.
     
    RasaqBoi likes this.
  10. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    19,417
    Likes Received:
    701
    I like what I saw from Isaac Asiata and Aviante Collins during the combine. Good testing all around. Great pick ups in the early -mid rounds (2-4). Two powerful, quick RT/RG types.
     
  11. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    24,149
    Likes Received:
    9,391
  12. Ziggy

    Ziggy Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 1999
    Messages:
    28,559
    Likes Received:
    2,185
    Myles Garrett is like the X24 to Von Miller's X23.
     
  13. Nimo

    Nimo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2012
    Messages:
    7,727
    Likes Received:
    1,319
  14. Nimo

    Nimo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2012
    Messages:
    7,727
    Likes Received:
    1,319
  15. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    24,149
    Likes Received:
    9,391
  16. Bennie Anders

    Bennie Anders Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    557
    Likes Received:
    127
    The Villanova guy is an excellent sleeper.
     
  17. Yaosthirdleg

    Yaosthirdleg Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2016
    Messages:
    797
    Likes Received:
    684
    I'm not sure he's much of a sleeper anymore. Some draftniks are saying he might go in the 2nd round now.
     
  18. Rudyc281

    Rudyc281 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2011
    Messages:
    3,557
    Likes Received:
    329
    I hope we draft obi.
     
    Yaosthirdleg likes this.
  19. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    1,081
    Likes Received:
    219
    Going to have to use a 1st on him.

    Too rich for my blood
     
  20. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Rookie

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    19,417
    Likes Received:
    701
    Why no love for Greg Ward?
     
Loading...

Share This Page