1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

2017 Astros Minor League Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by tellitlikeitis, Nov 17, 2016.

  1. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    19,701
    Likes Received:
    10,176
    Drew Ferguson extended his hitting streak to 21 games in Corpus Christi's doubleheader yesterday; he hit a solo homer (5) in game 1 and went 2-3 with a 2-run single in game 2. He also scored 2 runs in each game.
     
    No Worries likes this.
  2. Astrodome

    Astrodome Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2015
    Messages:
    11,122
    Likes Received:
    12,371
    Any update on what Singleton did? Hippie Lettuce again?
     
  3. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    11,169
    Likes Received:
    15,127
    Fergalicous (sorry) ready for AAA; hard to get too excited about a guy who's almost 25 in AA.
     
  4. No Worries

    No Worries Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1999
    Messages:
    30,088
    Likes Received:
    16,978
    The Astros have been very disciplined about keeping silent on why players get suspended. Thus, we may never know.
     
    Astrodome likes this.
  5. xcrunner51

    xcrunner51 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2002
    Messages:
    5,461
    Likes Received:
    2,300
    He didn't leave any doritos for the rest of the team.
     
  6. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    19,701
    Likes Received:
    10,176
    Rogers just homered again, giving him 9 on the season between both A clubs.

    Buies Creek and Salem are trying to get the doubleheader in today; the first game yesterday was called after 5 innings and pushed the second game back.

    Speaking of that game... Brett Adcock got the start today and was knocked around in his 6 innings: 7 H (solo and 3-run HRs), 5 ER, 3 BB, 7 K
     
    #966 tellitlikeitis, May 25, 2017
    Last edited: May 25, 2017
  7. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Messages:
    23,936
    Likes Received:
    14,006
    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs/daily-prospect-notes-525/
    Here's a small blurb on this season's catcher of the future, Jake Rogers in the 25th 21st Century

    And all that in a rain-shortened, five-inning game. Rogers has been swinging and missing a lot since his recent promotion to High-A, but he went bonkers last night. He does have some bat speed and might run into a dozen annual homers if his excellent glove earns him an everyday job.
     
  8. xcrunner51

    xcrunner51 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2002
    Messages:
    5,461
    Likes Received:
    2,300
    10 K's in 27 PA's is a lot but small sample size much Longenhagan?

    Interesting that Rogers is actually pretty much doing what the scouting Longenhagan's scouting report said. While I think we'd all say he's hitting better than expected, Fangraphs had him as a 45/50 raw power, 20/40 game power guy. 12 hr is the high-end of 40 game power according to Fangraphs' scouting scale break down.
     
  9. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Messages:
    23,936
    Likes Received:
    14,006
    On sample size, his K% regresses to 29% for 60 at bats or 26% for 120 at bats. Either number is not good. As such, even though it is a small sample size, it is bad enough that it is very likely to be bad even once he gets to an appropriate sample size.

    Edit: I should have said plate appearances instead of at bats.
     
    #969 Joe Joe, May 25, 2017
    Last edited: May 25, 2017
  10. xcrunner51

    xcrunner51 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2002
    Messages:
    5,461
    Likes Received:
    2,300
    Yea Rogers definitely has contact issues, but we knew that. He's pretty much playing out the way the scouting reports said he would.
     
  11. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Messages:
    23,936
    Likes Received:
    14,006
    For good or bad, it is beneficial to verify what we know in case things change or we are flat out wrong. While 27 at bats usually isn't enough to say much about a batter....a 37% K% in 27 at bats is sufficient to confirm that Rogers still has contact problems and is noteworthy.
     
  12. xcrunner51

    xcrunner51 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2002
    Messages:
    5,461
    Likes Received:
    2,300
    Debatable. I wouldn't be surprised if more than a few players run into 37% strikeout rates over 27 PA's; its just not enough data. There's the seminal paper on how long it takes for numbers to stabilize. (Link). K-rate stabilizes around 150 PA's. I'd place a tipjar bet that he's not going to finish at 37%.
     
  13. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Messages:
    23,936
    Likes Received:
    14,006
    If you look up above, I regressed the stats to the mean for 60 PAs and 120 PAs to get 29% and 26%....which are still bad. So, I am not saying 37%, but that using standard regression techniques...it is bad enough that one should treat it the same or worse than 29% in 60 PAs and 26% in 120 PAs.

    Also, Pizza Cutter has revised his work since that piece and has revised it to 60 PAs for K Rate. Fangraphs summarizes it here: http://www.fangraphs.com/library/principles/sample-size/.

    This was my basis for regressing to 60 (reasonable regression) and 120 PAs (overkill regression). Stats don't magically become relevant at a stabilization point. The closer a player's true talent level is to average, the longer it takes to get a read on his ability in regards to whether he is qualitatively good or bad. It is harder to get a good read on the more extreme players on about how good or bad they are, but it is usually easier to spot whether they are qualitatively good or bad. Rogers is likely going to have K Rate about or over 29% at the stabilization point. His season K rate in A+ will likely be close to or greater than 26%.
     
    #973 Joe Joe, May 25, 2017
    Last edited: May 25, 2017
  14. xcrunner51

    xcrunner51 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2002
    Messages:
    5,461
    Likes Received:
    2,300
    Very nice work.

    I won't be surprised if his K rate is still hot garbage at 60 PA's or 120 PA's.
     
  15. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    19,701
    Likes Received:
    10,176
    Just saw that Cristian Javier joined Buies Creek today. He walked 3 and struck out 3 in 1.2 innings in the first game of their doubleheader against Salem.

    Javier has dominated the Rookie leagues in his first two seasons in the system so this should be a nice challenge for him. Either that or they're giving him some game action before he reports to Tri-City.

    These were Javier's numbers in 51 innings between the GCL (25.1 IP) and Greeneville (25.2 IP):

    13 appearances (6 starts), 4-2, 1 save, 2.29 ERA, 34 H (2 HR allowed), 15 R (13 earned), 18 BB, 66 K, 1.02 WHIP, .189 opponent average
     
  16. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    19,701
    Likes Received:
    10,176
    Rogelio Armenteros vs. Springfield: 5.2 IP, 4 H, BB, 8 K
     
    No Worries likes this.
  17. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    19,701
    Likes Received:
    10,176
    Enoli Paredes vs. Peoria: 5 IP, 2 H, BB, 5 K
     
    No Worries likes this.
  18. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    19,701
    Likes Received:
    10,176

    Ryan Hartman finished off the shutout.

    4 IP, 4 H, 5 K
     
    No Worries likes this.
  19. rocketpower2

    rocketpower2 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    11,030
    Likes Received:
    2,393
    He's an interesting follow. Great numbers but Longenhagen has said his stuff is barely passable by a MLB starter standards and that his results thus far are due to deception in his delivery.
     
  20. tellitlikeitis

    tellitlikeitis Canceled
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2009
    Messages:
    19,701
    Likes Received:
    10,176
    Enoli Paredes is making himself one to watch down in Quad Cities.

    7 appearances (5 starts), 1-3, 2.43 ERA, 33.1 IP, 21 H (3 HR allowed), 9 ER, 12 BB, 28 K, 0.99 WHIP, .184 opponent average
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now