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[2015-2016] Jeremy Lin as a Charlotte Hornet

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by swyyyguy, Jul 8, 2015.

  1. yoeddy

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    Melo and JR Smith commenting on his Houston contract provided some indication about how they felt about Lin in NY (and Amare's recent comments seemed to support that). Harden's "Me and Dwight are the cornerstones and everyone else is a role player" also indicated a lack of respect. He did have friends on all of those teams, but definitely there were some issues between Lin and the superstars (Kobe included).
     
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    NY players undermined him, yes. But I think we are talking about Houston only. and Harden's comment offended everyone not named Dwight and Harden, it wasnt exclusive to Lin.
     
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    Carmelo and JR Smith were Salty
     
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    Yes. It is because he gets the calls, Heat can't tighten up their defense on him and he's able to have more room to operate, drawing double team to pass it to the open man resulting the assists. His defense have been good all year long, so it's not the main reason to his playoff success.
     
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    He's no superstar or elite top tier NBA guard.

    He's a solid NBA player rated somewhere in the middle of the second tier NBA guards.
     
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    Mchale and his coaches definitely did not allow lin to succeed in Htown...they choose Harden and slowing reduced lin's role. Lin and Harden needs the ball. Harden is the better and a MVP level player. So, I can understand their decision now, but this messed with lin's confidence and growth.
     
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    Mchale and his coaches definitely did not allow lin to succeed in Htown...they choose Harden and slowing reduced lin's role. Lin and Harden needs the ball. Harden is the better and a MVP level player. So, I can understand their decision now, but this messed with lin's confidence and growth.
     
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    I don't see anything that says his game has evolved since he was here. It's the same. But I always thought if he shot the ball 12.5 times instead of 9.3 times, his stats would look like what people expect from that position. Someone who only shoots 9.3 times a game is always going to have inconsistency issues unless he is a pure shooter, which he is not.

    Jamal Crawford for example shoots 13 shots in 1590 seconds. that is talent. He should teach like the dream when he is done playing.

    I do like that lin has grown out his hair, flail his arms and snaps his head back and to the left when he feels contact. you have to commit to the art of theatrics.
     
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    Not Jason Terry during the Mavericks years, that's for sure
     
  10. yoeddy

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    Yup, Harden offended many players...it wasn't only Lin. But it definitely created division on the team, and that hurt everyone (not just Lin).
     
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    Isiah Thomas and Greg Anthony suggested that he's the best backup PG in the league.
     
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    Westbrook and Wade are the same height as Lin, but both will take it the rack with monster jams. Lin doesn't have that kind of strength and hops. If he did his shot would probably be better too. That's what it would take for Lin to get to top tier.
     
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    Hey I am unbanned!

    Anyway, I think to put everyone with something positive to say about Lin into one basket is one dimensional. Same with those who categorized people who criticizes Lin's plays as LOHs.

    There are a minority of "LOFs" that are delusional and projected their own problems onto Lin. The rest of Lin supporters are just about as realistic as any basketball fans.
     
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    Lin doesn't even play PG that much. He's a combo guard, playing more on SG than PG. This imo, benefits him a lot. He's decent enough to hold off most backup SGs and exploit on the backup PGs. He's definitely one of the best coming off the bench. The 7th voting on 6th man of the year isn't nothing.
     
  15. yoeddy

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    At SG, Lin isn't anything more than serviceable...for SG, he's undersized and doesn't have the shooting touch to really be good there. He's definitely better at PG, where he has size advantage and video game-like first step.
     
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    Wade is 6ft4, Westbrook is 6ft3, Lin is 6ft2
     
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    Athleticism isn't something you can acquire later on. For Lin to get to top tier, he needs to improve his shooting significantly and become consistent. Like how Jason Kidd was able to do later in his career. Lin has speed and he's learning to be more crafty, but end of the day, he needs to be able to knock down shots consistently, that would open up his drive lane as well.
     
  18. yoeddy

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    Lin has always been listed at 6ft3in in the NBA.
     
  19. AvgJoe

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    I disagree. Yes, he has a lot of issue defending bigger SG, but he can handle most of the backup SG. As a SG, he doesn't have to care much about playmaking. He can focus on attacking the rim aggressive and stay aggressive. He's not suited to play PG the whole game, handle problems make him TO prone. 2nd to 3rd option playermaker is where he belongs and rest is focus on attacking the rim and knock down open shots.
     
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    Westbrook the absolute freak of nature athlete? Possibly the most athletic point guard ever?

    And Wade, a freak athlete in his own right? Built like a tank? Strong as a bull?

    Those guys are just absolute beasts winners of the genetic lottery, Especially prime Wade and current Westbrook.
     
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