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“There’s too much damn turmoil.” -An Unsettling Vibe Surrounds these Rockets

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Tristan_fiore, Jun 17, 2019.

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    Haden don’t move around at all when he does give up the ball that’s true.
     
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    As competitive as CP3 is, I think the Lakers would be better off with Kemba or Kyrie. Or Butler.
    CP3 can be overbearing at times. Plus he is injury prone and declining.

     
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    Like i said in the other thread, just seems like there's something wrong here, Rockets and the players doing nothing to show this isn't a real problem, all the rumors about a Paul trade...to me smells more and more like a Dwight 2.0 situation.
     
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    I side with Harden on this one.

    CP is a role player at this point in his career.

    Superstars rarely listen to and accept coaching from role players.
     
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    Dwert was not even close to being as competitive as Chris Paul is. Chris just does not have Dwert's body and athleticism.
     
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    Morey insisted that it was his decision and not Fertitta's to go under the tax.
     
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    Seems like the issue they have, a good coach would be able to find offensive balance to iron out
     
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    I'm not talking about on court things, when Dwight was here the last season the were strange things happening on the court like Dwight straight up ignoring James on inbounds plays, and at some point rumors about a potential trade to Charlotte came out and everyone thought it was bs, nothing happened then, probably cause Dwight was expiring and nobody wanted to give up assets for him, but once the season ended everything came out and we learned there were problems between him and James etc...
     
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    I didn't say Harden was an easy teammate to deal with.

    Always said Harden had his anti-social moments. But people would side with the better player, so be it.
     
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    And i'm not blaming Harden for Dwight leaving, Dwight is always been a crybaby who didn't understand and accept his role in the NBA, that happened in like 4 teams. In this situation though, i think James would/should benefit by trying to work this out with Chris instead of just putting up a wall.
     
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    Great article. Really touches base on lots of the franchises issues.

    Some interesting tidbits:

    1. Bzdelik leaving last year because he didn't feel respected;

    2. Harden ignoring Cp3's coaching and asking for more ball movement. The fact Pauls enjoys playing without Harden could corroborate the rumors he wants out;

    3. Flat out stating House looked horrible in the playoffs;

    4. Feritta getting defensive when people mention he is cheap.

    In all, it's going to be a big challenge to get things right this offseason. Tension is there, hope they work it out because our window is quickly closing.
     
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    I side with Harden. Only reason CP3 is mad is because he can't move like he once did. We almost won last year with the same style of play until CP3 went down.

    We are stuck with CP3 for the foreseeable future so I hope Harden and him can work out their differences.

    Harden carried this team playing iso ball. It doesn't matter how much people hate it, that's just facts.
     
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    I've never played NBA level basketball.

    I can tell you that having some set plays and Harden doing more of the "little things" would have only been a positive to last year's team.

    It's not rocket science.

    The fact that CP3 isn't as good as he was an ISO player 2 years ago is even more reason he's right.

    If the response is "shut up, you can't even get by your man"... then the appropriate response to that is exactly what CP3 is suggesting... "RIGHT, so let's put in some f'ing plays" lol
     
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    The whole reason Paul was even brought here was to provide leadership for the lackadasical Harden (remembers the Spurs elimination game?). Now that he's calling Harden out on it and pushing him to be better, people are upset with it.

    Harden has to be the most uncoachable star out there outside of maybe Lebron.
     
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    Don't get me wrong I wish Harden was more receptive to switching things up occasionally.

    I'd like him to move more when he doesn't have the ball and I wish he would speed up the pace every now and then.

    I just don't think a washed CP can deliver this message and reasonably expect Harden to listen.

    The man took us from the 14th seed to nearly securing the 2nd seed by himself while CP was on the bench nursing yet another injury.

    And we think he's gonna be receptive to hey let's pass it around a little more because I'm not what I used to be?
     
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    He should be receptive to "you're never going to win a championship when you play a style of basketball that just maximizes you. you need to build your game around making everyone else better first. this is what I specialize in so listen to me." Or, he can keep watching his team fail in the biggest moments over and over.
     
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