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Cap Flexibility and Asset Collection have to go!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Feb 21, 2015.

  1. Airdough

    Airdough Member

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    The team has no cap flexibility. They are in the same cap situation as if they had kept Parsons versus not, the difference being it saved Les some money. The rest of the contenders are saying that it takes a deep roster that requires you to pay taxes to actually contend. Yes, an injury riddled team made the WCF, that doesn't mean the roster even when healthy wasn't flawed.
     
  2. dobro1229

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    Actually they converted pretty much every ASSET and piece of flexibility they had last Summer (other than mortgaging the future of 1st round picks) to be converted into real life basketball players & production.

    -THREE second round draft picks were used to upgrade the team (Brewer, Prigioni, KJ McDaniels)

    -They utilized the ASSET that was the Jeremy Lin trade exception to acquire Brewer's salary

    -The ASSET or draft pick from the Asik trade turned into a real live person Sam Dekker who is no longer just an asset but a real person assuming he plays basketball for the Houston Rockets this year.

    -They utilized their BAE (another ASSET) for a real life player in Josh Smith who then was an asset that converted to real life basketball production.

    You couldn't be any more wrong about this one Carl. Assets and Flexibility performed pretty well last year. They don't win the Clippers series if not for the ASSETS that were converted to real players last year (Brewer/Smith), and two future prospects could end up being huge parts of continuing to build talent around James Harden... you know... the runner up in the MVP voting that YOU WANTED TO TRADE for Kevin Love just a year ago????
     
  3. RedDragon01

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    Yeah, you can say that about 29 other teams. And luck is opportunity meets preparation, aka Cap Flexibility and Asset Collection.

    You may be the most polarizing poster on CF. Some of your threads are absolutely spot on. But then I read one like this and it makes me revisit the idea that you're CF's best troll.
     
  4. JoeBarelyCares

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    Not really a troll position by CH with 76% of the forum voting we need more talent to win the title:

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=267561
     
  5. cdrive

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    McHale "I've never seen Cap Flexibility grab a rebound."

    Cap Flexibility ain't walking through that door! Asset Collection ain't walking through that door! #PitinoGame
     
  6. Scolalist

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    Cap flexibility brought Howard & Asik here, so yeah it's grabbed plenty of rebounds.
     
  7. DieHard Rocket

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    I don't think we'll see Morey give up on cap flexibility until he finds that legitimate "3rd star on a championship team" type player that he mentioned two years ago. And I don't blame him. I'm not convinced that James, Dwight, and the role players we have are enough.
     
  8. Ranny

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    What the hell is this ****??? How is it that these sort of threads keep coming up??? When it comes to talking about Morey the stubbornness of some guys here reaches epical levels!!! I mean after last season’s performance why don’t you people at least call a truce?

    Asset Collection, cap flexibility and Morey’s sheer awesomeness brought us Harden, and Howard for crying out loud!! Last year he “lost” Parsons but brought Ariza who is twice the player at half the price!!! He then gave us a deep bench with Brewer and Josh! We reached the WCF against all odds and today we are literarily one piece away of being a legit contender, why the hell are you still complaining I don’t freaking get it??? WHYYYYYYYYY????!!!!!

    Give the guy a break already, he is doing a good job and has gotten us closer to a title than we have ever been since our last championship…..
     
  9. RedDragon01

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    Needing more talent to win a title isn't the point of this troll thread. But if it was, I'd agree with it. We need more talent to win a championship.

    The trolling is the way Carl is criticizing Morey's process of getting more talent. He's criticizing the use of cap flexibility and asset collection, when it's cap flexibility and asset collection that was used to create the team we have today. Basically, he's biting the hand that feeds him.

    Cap flexibility and asset collection has created this team, and like 76% of the forum, apparently Morey doesn't believe that we have enough talent to win a championship, even with Harden and Howard already on-board.

    What in the world makes you or Carl or anyone else think that Morey will, or even should, all of a sudden stop practicing the same team building strategy that got him this far to get "more talent" to win that championship?

    He's trolling, plain and simple. And he's such a good troll that he's duped you into thinking this is a thread about needing more talent.
     
  10. Newlin

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    Luck? You want to talk about luck? Take a look at the Warriors. The Warriors had more luck than any other team. It's true that they were a very good team, but they had plenty of luck by facing team after team that were missing key players.

    I think the Rockets were very unlucky to have to play the entire playoffs without two key members of their rotation.
     
  11. do work son

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    if bosh doesn't renege on his word, we would've went all in with harden parsons bosh howard.

    we don't want to lose flexibility without a team that's absolutely championship ready. look where the nets are. they went all in on deron williams paul pierce joe johnson and kevin garnett. now they're absolutely ******. they have no picks of their own, they have no cap flexibility to maneuver out. their only option is to pay their guys money and wait until those contracts come off the books and they have their own picks to use. they'll be a non factor for at least 5 years.

    if you go all in and risk everything, and even one thing goes wrong, you can screw your franchise for multiple years.
     
  12. cdrive

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    You forgot 1 microfracture surgery and 1 blood clot.
     
  13. do work son

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    exactly. these clowns would be furious if we signed bosh and parsons. parsons blows his knee, bosh has his bloodclot, then this board would be "how come morey didn't have a backup plan for this? why don't we have any flexibility!!!!"
     
  14. pbthunder

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    You do judge management on results, but "results" isn't just one thing. There are things the GM can't control. Morey consistently keeps us within a reasonable distance of the brass ring, just waiting for a break or two. Sounds easy, but many teams risk it all on a role of the dice, and have to re-build. Morey trashed everything and re-built quickly.
     
  15. do work son

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    this is why you don't go all in and risk flexibility

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  16. Astrosfan1973

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    Perspective is key. We were likely the third best team in the league last season. He's essentially putting that team back together with a few minor additions and subtractions. If they can find a second competent point guard they'll probably have a better overall roster than they had last season.
     
  17. ghettocheeze

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    CAP FLEXIBILITY:
    Besides our two franchise players nobody makes more than $10 Million. Ariza, Brewer, and Beverley and are locked in the 6-8 Million range; well below market value with highly desirable contracts that are easy to move when needed and have net positive value in an outgoing trade. Morey is still looking for a 3rd star and is patiently waiting his opportunity to strike rather than overpay Parsons - a guy Morey sees fit for the 6-8 Million bin in his collection. The best example of all this is that the Rockets have been in the running for Melo, Bosh, Aldridge in consecutive off seasons while keeping their core intact and quality players around. The same thing will apply next summer with the chase for Durant. Sure, the Rockets may strikeout but to even be in such a position while carrying two max superstars on your roster and batting for a 3rd is simply the work of brilliant management.

    ASSETS:
    The 18th pick from New Orleans (Dekker), Motiejunas, Jones, McDaniels - these are guys you either develop as replacements for departing starters and role players or use to sweeten a trade. Either way you develop or flip them until you arrive at a James Harden like trade on the table and you have the chips to play such a hand. I like to think of this as Morey developing a farm system, a lot of guys come and go, but a few quality guys get called up to big leagues.
     
  18. Mr. Clutch

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    We're trading CFlex and AssCo for Durant next year.
     
  19. Down19

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    And Deron is getting paid now to not even be on the team
     
  20. hakeemthagreat

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    That 3rd star fantasy could eventually lead to Morey's departure. There are too many very good role players to be holding out for a "3rd star". How about a great coach & a balanced roster?
     

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