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2012 Presidential Election: Romney vs. Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. rimrocker

    rimrocker Contributing Member

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    Um, OK...

     
  2. glynch

    glynch Contributing Member

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    Um, OK...


    Rimrocker, don't be cruel to he GOP'ers
     
  3. Batman Jones

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    I hate to agree about Warren but, having seen the convention speech, I expect you're right.

    Also a very interesting hypothesis about Bill. Another good Major post all around, as per usual.

    For some time I've felt Hillary's chances of running were around 60/40% for. I've also felt that if she ran her chances of winning were 90% at least. (Chris Christie makes me nervous because he keeps making me wish I could vote for him.)

    I didn't in any way expect the inevitable speculation to be so well supported, in various ways, and so soon -- and to not be accompanied by a public denial.

    I think she's running, I think she's winning, and I think she's at least as likely as not to be the best president of my lifetime.
     
  4. Batman Jones

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    Anyway, Warren has bigger fish to fry than the presidency. Like Supreme Court Justice. Or Chairman of the Federal Reserve.
     
  5. Batman Jones

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    Most of those people also believe Obama is Muslim and was born in Kenya.

    Most of them believe Obama raised their taxes.

    Most of them believe that Obama took away or tried to take away or will take away their guns.

    Most of them believe that Obamacare is socialism but Medicare is not.

    Many of them believe that Obama is simultaneously a socialist and a fascist. And many of them believe that Obama is for both gay marriage and also Sharia Law.

    Most of them still believe that Saddam Hussein was complicit in the 9/11 attacks and they still believe that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. Many of them believe we found the weapons of mass destruction.

    And I'd estimate that upwards of 95% of same people believe in Heaven and Hell being actual, real things.

    Those same people believe so many incredibly crazy things that the fact of them believing the election was stolen seems pretty pedestrian.
     
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    Wouldn't that be Chairwoman? ;)
     
  7. mc mark

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    Fox drops Morris and Rove.
     
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    [​IMG]


    And now watch that opportunistic and slimy Morris try to get a job on MSNBC as a liberal commentator...
     
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    This is freaking hilarious. Guy is running for President for FIVE YEARS and he didn't want to be President anyway.

    Mitt's Son Says He Never Wanted to be President Anyway
    By Connor Simpson | The Atlantic Wire
    http://news.yahoo.com/mitts-son-says-never-wanted-president-anyway-150612736.html

    If you thought the tale of how Mitt Romney lost the general election was already told, you would be wrong. Because there is so much left to tell, like how Mitt never wanted to be President anyway.

    At least, that's what Tagg Romney says in this new Boston Globe report on what went wrong with Romney's campaign. While the rest of the piece seems to say the problems lay in the Romney campaign's lack of technical advantage, and refusal to introduce the world to Mitt Romney, the human being, this little morsel from the Republican's son points to a larger problem:

    “He wanted to be president less than anyone I’ve met in my life. He had no desire to . . . run,” said Tagg, who worked with his mother, Ann, to persuade his father to seek the presidency. “If he could have found someone else to take his place . . . he would have been ecstatic to step aside.

    So, yeah, that might explain why Mitt lost. Not wanting the job you need to publicly campaign for more than a year to get is step one in the "Not Getting Elected Guide for Dummies" book. Again, the rest of the mammoth piece, which you really should read, paints a larger picture of the struggle between Mitt's inner circle and his campaign advisors over whether they should humanize Mitt, which was ultimately their downfall. And, also, the Obama campaign had more staff and cooler tech stuff, like an app named Gordon, "after the person who punched Houdini in the stomach shortly before the magician died," and Narwhal, named after the Internet's favorite arctic whale.

    Mitt never stood a chance against Narwhal.
     
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    Tagg Romney, smh. I wonder who he's met in life. Should have just kept his mouth shut.
     
  12. Batman Jones

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    Reporters still take calls from the Romney's? Why?
     
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    So, now the excuse is he didn't want it anyway?
     
  14. BetterThanI

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    Today's lesson, courtesy of Tagg Romney:

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/R0Fepu1wXgQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    Via TPM --

    Changing History

    Some fascinating findings from Pew’s on-going number crunching of the 2012 election. African-Americans, for the first time ever, may have voted at higher rates than American whites.

    From Pew …

    Blacks voted at a higher rate this year than other minority groups and for the first time in history may also have voted at a higher rate than whites, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of census data, election day exit poll data and vote totals from selected cities and counties.

    Unlike other minority groups whose increasing electoral muscle has been driven mainly by population growth, blacks’ rising share of the vote in the past four presidential elections has been the result of rising turnout rates.



    According to census data and the election day exit polls, blacks made up 12 percent of the eligible electorate1 this year but accounted for an estimated 13 percent of all votes cast—a repeat of the 2008 presidential election, when blacks “over-performed” at the polls by the same ratio. In all previous presidential elections for which there are reliable data, blacks had accounted for a smaller share of votes than eligible voters.

    Pew goes on to note that while participation rates for Hispanics and Asian-Americans continue to rise, they still lag behind participation rates for the population as a whole. The growing clout of those groups is tied overwhelmingly to population growth.

    If you know the history of disenfranchisement in the African-American community, this is a pretty amazing milestone. I continue to think — and I’m not alone in this — that Republican sowed the wind with voter suppression tactics and reaped the whirlwind. Far from taking the edge off African-American turnout, which was the intent, it mobilized these voters to historic levels.
     
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    Not surprising when 92% of blacks voted for Obama... of course 90% generally vote Democrat anyway.
     
  17. GladiatoRowdy

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    The funny thing about voting is that one a person does it once, they are far more likely to do it again.
     
  18. Deckard

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    The turnout is what surprises. The turnout, not the percentage of the Black vote. I get depressed after every state and federal election in Texas because of the low turnout. I don't think Rick Perry, who has been a disaster for Texas as governor, IMO, would be governor today if Texans would simply go out and vote.
     
  19. rimrocker

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    And... that's a wrap.

     
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