Chris Paul is a true winner, he cares only about winning more than money, he cares more about winning than getting media attention which makes him a true superstar and extremely valuable. Diva Howard on the other hand cares about media attention, big money, and than winning last. Dwight Howard doesn't have the same passion as the players like Lebron, CP3, Kobe, Durant etc. You notice he always trying to grab the media attention every single chance he get. Sure he's a great big talent and also a big diva but he's a good player but he just doesn't have that same drive like the great players. Dwight may be the best center in the league today, but he's no match to the centers in the past. Even his numbers aren't even close. At best he's averaging 20 ppg, 14 rpg, and 2.5 bpg... Thats good number compare to other centers but compare that to other superstars, thats nowhere near close. Im not saying numbers says it all, but he's not the type of player that can lead you deep in the playoffs. Yao Ming is a much better player but he had a hard time leading the Rockets in the past when healthy. Dwight may be the best center but there are plenty of players that are not centers who are a better player than Howard and can lead their team better. I much rather have a Kevin Love who can score better and in more different ways than dunking, better rebounder and all around game than Howard. That shows you that Dwight Howard isn't as special as you think. He is a 2nd tier star compare to a Lebron James, Durant, Kobe, CP3, Wade, Dwill, DRose etc...
ive been thinking about this for a long time, but what picks do we really have to offer? as far as I can ever gather, all the picks we have to trade is the Toronto pick and the Dallas pick. thats just 2 picks. we dont have another pick and our own pick is owed to the Hawks. The Brooklyn Nets offered four, FOUR first round picks to the Magic and the deal still didn't get done. The more I think about it, the only way the Magic really would do a deal with us seriously is that they are somehow really high on our young players, i.e. the new draft picks, e.g. Royce White, Terrence Jones, Jeremy Lamb. In any other case I really feel we have very little to offer other than taking back heavier contracts. Am I missing something here completely or am I actually right in my concern for the lack of young talent/picks that we actually have to offer?
You sound like a baby. Your argument is he won't resign, contrary to others thinking he will. Neither side knows what the hell would happen. So, what's the point of your post again? Please think.
Are you kidding? The Brooklyn picks SUCKED. They were all guaranteed to be 20 or later, probably 25 or later. Those picks are basically worthless because you can buy your way into that part of the first round every year, if you want. The Toronto pick is essentially a guaranteed lottery choice. By itself, that's more worthwhile than the entire package from Brooklyn. Think about it - if someone offered Morey four picks in the 20s in exchange for the Toronto pick, do you think he'd take it? I'm fairly certain he'd hang up the phone and laugh. Quality beats quantity every time in the NBA. Moreover, the Brooklyn deal involved taking a "pretty good" center in Brook Lopez and paying him max money for four years - not exactly the way you start a rebuilding process. The way to logically start a rebuilding process is expiring contracts (Kevin Martin), good draft picks (Toronto), and legitimate young prospects on the cheap - of which we have plenty. Night and day different from Brooklyn scenario.
Nets 4 picks. Do you even have any idea how late those picks are going to be from a team that has Deron Williams, Dwight Howard, Joe Johnson and Gerald Wallace? Those are 4 late 20's picks. That's garbage for a rebuilding team. Then they would have Brook Lopez as their franchise's cornerstone who they have to pay Lebron James money salary wise? Heck Kyle Lowry averaged more rebounds than Brook Lopez. Paying him 15-16 million a year makes him more of a liability than an asset.
Yeah these guys nailed it. The four first rd picks from the Nets aren't really much better than the 2nd rd picks the Rockets can offer. Those picks are going to be bad for awhile. But maybe the Nets get bad in a few years and one of those picks is a lottery pick, who knows.
The Nets picks were going to be awful -late 20's 1st rounders in future drafts. The Toronto pick alone is worth 2 of those. One of our players drafted in the teens in this strong draft class (White, Lamb, White) are also worth 2 of those 1st round picks down the road in the late 20's. People would probably trade say pick 27 and pick 28 in THIS year's draft to get to #12 or #16. Even quicker would they trade bad 1st rounders in future drafts. So Toronto pick and one of the draftees should cover those picks.
2 higher picks & the ability to take on more salary & expirings, vs. 4 crappy picks, 4 risky years of Brook Lopez at the Max - not a hard sell at all if you want to start over. But if you think Brook Lopez, Jameer Nelson and Jason Richardson can get it done in Orlando, you go for that one.
A Dwight Howard trade package would start with Kevin Martin to be able to match salaries. Plus his expiring contract is perfect for a rebuilding team. Even if he isn't included in the trade package (which is impossible), last time checked, Dwight's other monicker is D12. Kevin Martin was never called as K12 or M12. Lol anyway this is irrelevant since Martin would be included in the package..100%. I actually want him to stay if Dwight comes since he would e perfect with a dominant center. But in order to match salaries.. We won't get to see it.
It's actually not 100%. It depends on where the Rockets are cap wise really. They could conceivably get a trade done with Orlando for Dwight that didn't include Martin.
It's not just the quality of the picks (in which lottery picks are much more valuable than late 1st round picks), but also, we can take on some of their other bad contracts (which I'm not too thrilled with). NJ can barely get their act together to take on Dwight's salary alone.
Because of his "endorsements" he'll lose $$$ by coming to Houston, versus going to Brooklyn/NYC or any high prized market...
Yet you have no reason to why you want Dwight here.....so when he fakes and injury, divide the locker room or get Morey and McHale fired we will be the Magic West. I've seen that movie before and so has Dwight. We have the making of a foundation / structure as of right now and free agents like Josh Smith, Bynum are the interior fixtures. Why can't y'all see that. I rather have Lamb 1 million rookie salary than Richardson 5 million salary and have the same production between the two. Rather have Parsons and White upside than Hedo 10ppg. Rather play Machado and Douglas at point than having Duh on at point with 3.8 ppg last season. Dwight is the new fad cause you guys jumped the Dwight ship when Bynum was mentioned.
