Should've never traded Rudy Gay. Morey never would've never made that trade.

Take a listen to Morey and Cuban talking about the Battier trade at the Analytics conference last February:

http://2009.sloansportsconference.com/2009/webcasts/basketball-analytics/

35:00-37:00 is where its mentioned.

 

Some will call me a Rafer hater for this post.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/rafer_alston/

33.3% FG for the season.

Rafer's last 3 games have been 3-11 FG, 2-8 FG and 1-5 FG.

 

100% ignorant. Stars aren't found everywhere.

Wait until after 2011 when Yao's contract is up.

Then we get to truly see what Morey can do with with lots of free space.

 

Hey stat junkie, you need to look deeper in the numbers. This year is the only year Gay has shot 49% (only the second month of this season). He shot in the mid forties in his career. He also averaged 16 shots a game for the last 3 seasons. He would not get that many shots here except for maybe this year. He is averaging 20 pts a game on a bad team. He also never made the playoffs so there is no way to determine how he would perform. The ONLY thing I did not like in the trade was not getting Kyle 3 years ago.

 

Star players do not fall from the sky. If you want to trade for one normally you'd have to give up too much unless the said star wants out. If you want to sign a star you need a huge amount of cap space, and you have to suck real bad to get one from draft. It's not like a gm says I want a star and he gets one the next day. If Morey could get LBJ would he do it? Of course he would, but that's not happening.

 

you are right, for memphis, look at their WL record before and after the trade.

 

Sig worthy.

How can something be one of the worst and "probably" crack the top 20?

Your comment regarding Rudy Gay and his fantasy numbers implying his worth is comical. He's averaging 20 points on a team in which he's the focal point.

And his defense is pitiful. There's a reason why he and Mayo don't get along.

OJ cares about team defense and Gay likes to slack off on the defensive end while hoggin' the ball on offense.

 

It was a bad trade no doubt, but there have been some doozies in the nba. I think it was short sighted and has cost the team, but i've beaten the crap out of it for a while and doesn't matter. The battier people think he's great and the other think we gave too much. In the end, we've gone nowhere in win now mode.

 

Not to question your man card, but what the H-E-!-! does a fantasy team have to do with defense?

If you go to Kevin Pelton's blog (Basketball Prospectus) he did a great analysis on exactly who the best team defenders were and who the worst were.. and I can assure you that Rudy Gay is that bad defensively. I believe it was a three year deal... they took three years of statistics and on off percentages and Rudy was the bottom of the totem pole.

I don't have the exact link, but I can find it if you give me a bit.

 

There was a star available in Gay.

 

Believe me, having Rudy Gay right now would not put us in a better position to win any time in the near future.

 

If we're classifying Rudy Gay as a "star", then we currently have 3 "stars" on this team.

 

I'm done with all these Battier discussions.

The man is a saint.

 

How so? Three seasons later and nobody outside of Clutchfans even mention the trade as a bad trade. In fact, Battier's stock has risen since his time in Houston as evidenced by the media's and opposing team's lovefest with his defense and intangibles.

Unless Gay becomes super-special (ala Wade or Melo) then it becomes a bad trade. I would consider the Eddie Griffin (r.i.p.) trade as worst since we gave up 3 first round picks two of which were very serviceable players. So the trade can't even be one of the worst trades the Rockets have made this decade.

 

Rox didnt trade Gay for Battier... they traded the 8th pick, and Memphis asked us to select Gay.

Rox would not have selected Gay even if we kept the pick. I believe that's been gone over a bunch before as well.

 

This was a moneyball move and you have advocated on keeping Morey. This means more such moves.

 

Correct, we were going to select Thabo Sefolosha.

 

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