I don't know anyone from the 19th century and I haven't seen a post from anyone who was personally offended. By bringing up this political correctness crap people take a perfectly harmless word written with no malicious intent and create a situation where somebody can get their feelings hurt. I happen to be from Oklahoma and take the term Okie as a compliment. The term Sooner was a derogatory term as well and so was Yankee. Let people defend themselves if they are offended, and don’t create a "situation" where there should have been none. I’m am positive that if Chip123456 truly offended someone and they ask his apology he would be more than willing to give it.
I am a Chinese and I am also an American. I DO take offense to the title in this page. That "term" does have derogatory meaning attached to it. It may not be as explosive as calling a black person the "N" word but if there was ever a term that comes close, this is it. I understand that this was not meant as a derogatory remark but I was offended and I read this post looking for the racist that wrote it. Guess what, I don't believe chip is a racist and that he never meant the use of the word as a cut down on the Chinese people. But as in any misunderstanding, a little understanding can go a long way. No need to apologize or anything like that. That being say, chip's reply of You know what, I really don't care. I'm going to say what I want. You should look at the point i'm trying to make instead a stupid word in my post unless I meant something by saying it. But the emphasis of the post isn't on that word (Chinaman). It's on his skills. So quit trying to be smart and read and react to the purpose. Thank you is not the best way of making a misuderstanding go away.
Good job, BK. Chip, emphasis has nothing whatsoever to do with it. Get over yourself and play nice, or leave.
This is ridiculous, why don't you save your pc crap for the hangout and let the real Rockets fans talk like men.
See, that's the difference between a man and a punk . . . punk. Do not call Yao Ming a "chinaman," or you will be treated as though you had just called someone a "darkie" or "heeb." These terms are not literally false but are universally understood by members of the respective groups to be offensive. If you think it's stupid that the controversy caused by your use of the term gets in the way of your basketball comments, try not using the term. You have been warned.
If you would have looked, you would have noticed that I wasn't the one who used the "term" and understood not to use it. There was no malicious intent and everyone knew it. That's why I find it ridiculous when a perfectly good post gets turned into a witch hunt for the sake of being politically correct. I believe I'm allowed to have my opinion so name calling and threats are not necessary.
Please, noone call me a "Houstonian". I prefer "Houston dweller" or "Person Who Lives In Houston". Thank you.
From Dictionary.com Chi·na·man Pronunciation Key (chn-mn) n. Offensive A Chinese man. Hous·ton Pronunciation Key (hystn) A city of southeast Texas northwest of Galveston. Founded in 1836 and named for Sam Houston, it is a major industrial, commercial, and financial hub, the center of the U.S. aerospace industry, and a deep-water port connected with Galveston Bay and the Gulf of Mexico by the Houston Ship Channel. Houston is also the largest city in Texas. Population: 1,630,553. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hous·toni·an (hy-stn-n) n Note the lack of the "offensive" description under Houstonian. Using inherently offensive terms loosely in public forums would pretty much be the actions of a: dick Pronunciation Key (dk) Slang n. Chiefly British. A fellow; a guy. Vulgar. A penis. Vulgar. A person, especially a man, regarded as mean or contemptible. Disclaimer: Please excuse the use of the latter "vulgar" definition to make a point (BTW I hope that no one argues that thinking "dick" is a vulgar term is just being "PC"). Oh, and in case you couldn't tell, the last bit was a joke and was not directed at anyone in particular. Here are a few smileys to soften the blow
I think you could ask some of our new chinese members... How they feel about the term... I have lived in China and traveled all over Asia and have used the term Chinaman (never in a derogatory manner) and never thinking I was being offensive. If they refered to me as Americanman I would not be offended in the least. However if they called me an American punk then I might have a problem. Sometimes I think people take this politically correct sh#t too far. I think it's the intent that matters. And I did not get the impression that the original reference was meant to be offensive. As my father used to say "It's the color of your heart that matters" not your skin or your ethnicity.
general rule of thumb, refrain from referring to asians as "chinamen"...whether its innocent or not, its better to be left as chinese man or chinese person. also, for all you un-informed, "ORIENTAL" refers to improper nouns such as rugs. i.e. "oriental rugs". people are "asian", not "oriental"....just to avoid any mishaps in the future.
How about referring to them with their god given birth name... I so dislike people who refer to others with offensive racial names or even references about white players..... That is all.
Sometimes I think people take this politically correct sh#t too far. I think it's the intent that matters. And I did not get the impression that the original reference was meant to be offensive. As my father used to say "It's the color of your heart that matters" not your skin or your ethnicity. I appreciate that you're trying to be conciliatory, but let's take this a little further. Would it be seen as OK for me to come down to Houston and start calling black people the N word? I'm Canadian. I have no history with the word, other than what I've seen on television and in Pulp Fiction, for example. I wouldn't be saying it with any bad intent. I'd just use it like they use it in Pulp Fiction. Do you think anybody would be offended? Of course they would. Intent is important, but a person should make some effort to find out what terminology is appropriate, and to use it.
"I'm Canadian. I have no history with the word, other than what I've seen on television and in Pulp Fiction, for example." LOL!
