road rage is different. they have a deadly weapon if you did watch the view the mom and daughter was accusing the lady for bumping but the lady never DENIED it I would give the mother and child the benefit of the doubt why would they make up a story and pick a fight? why would they act like that if nothing happned? if anything the way they act shows there must have been something done to the 15 year old girl to begin with the armed man and woman running around with guns ready to pull and aim at at anyone acting "irrational" is more suspect of starting something here's the lawyer for the defendant's not denying the bumping at all Wuestenberg’s attorney, Terry Johnson, said he doesn’t believe any of this has to do with wanting an apology. “Why are they coming out with cellphones?” Johnson said. “If you truly wanted an apology and you’re a responsible 15-year-old child you say, ‘Ma’am, did you know you bumped me?”
I believe that Shooty Karen probably had no idea she was seriously breaking the law, but ignorance of the law is no excuse and it is totally her fault. I'm sure she's talked to a lawyer and knows the genuine facts prove she's guilty and her only choice at this point is to obfuscate and lie about events and her mindset to try and beat the rap. The boldfaced lies are just a tacit admission that the established facts prove her guilt.
I got you and understand. But the way they were acting they were looking for trouble. Which if you look for it with the wrong people it can turn very bad. At the same time if someone would do something to my son I am capable of losing my temper easier than all other situations. So I understand it. A lesson though thinking about this is when you are in public don’t lose your emotions and deescalate whenever possible.
the lady who bumped the 14 year old WAS the one who was looking for trouble this is a lesson for everyone there are armed people looking for trouble instigating then making an excuse "I feel threatened" then advancing or pull out a gun and aim it at unarmed people
Rather rich for the representative of an adult woman who pulled a gun to talk about what a responsible 15-year-old child would say.
"and you’re a responsible 15-year-old child you say, ‘Ma’am, did you know you pulled out your gun and pointed it at me and my mom while we are unarmed?”
This incident reminds me of something that happened when I was a kid. My father had an argument with the air conditioning man after a repair he did ended up with a broken fan that required another repair. They got into a heated argument and the guy went back to his pick-up truck and pulled out a hand gun and pointed it at us saying he would blow his effing brains out. I was standing next to my dad and literally looked down the barrel of that gun. The guy left and my dad didn't report it. The guy came back to apologize and my dad just said he wasn't going to report it and just never come back here. My dad didn't believe getting someone fired was going to do any good in the world. He just let it go. But it's one of the reasons I have always supported stricter gun control, because even seemingly rational and sane people can lose their temper and do stupid things - and a gun just makes it a lot easier to escalate an argument into a potentially deadly situation. Home defense, fine. But in your glove compartment - how often is a gun in your glove compartment going to save your life versus make you feel more embolden to get into a deadly confrontation?
how has this incident not been posted in this thread yet? you guys are falling down on the job and for you rabid die-hard fans of Jonathan Turley (looking at you @Major and at you @jiggyfly ), here's the legal analysis plus a link to the entire four-hour meeting: https://jonathanturley.org/2020/07/...l-member-is-seen-bouncing-black-child-on-lap/ excerpt: Slander or Opinion? Claims Of Racism and Defamation Fly After Education Council Member Is Seen Bouncing Black Child On Lap A New York City education council meeting recent attracted national attention after one member of the council (and its past President), Robin Broshi, accused another member, Thomas Wrocklage, of racism after he was seen in a zoom meeting bouncing a black child on his lap. The video below is rather breathtaking but the incident has led to countervailing claims of racism and slander. As if often the case, we tend to jump on any novel torts claims and this is a good example of the tension between opinion and slander, particularly in such overheated (indeed radioactive) moments in public debates. It is unfortunately an increasingly common legal question in today’s rage-filled politics. The video of his meeting has now been shown throughout the world. However, it has some interesting elements as a pedagogical tool for understanding the underlying applicability of tort liability, or lack thereof. more at the link; click on the spoiler if you want Turley's conclusion Spoiler: Turley's verdict THE VERDICT Thus, Wrocklage’s denouncing the slander is likely as rhetorical as the allegation of racism from a legal perspective. That does not excuse any of these attacks, but the recourse for Wrocklage is to engage his critics in the court of public opinion, as he has with a global audience.
related: Who knew that Princeton faculty were such Karens? https://leiterreports.typepad.com/b...-systematic-violation-of-their-colleague.html excerpt: ("Anti-racism" doesn't, in fact, mean opposition to racism any longer, for those who have not been paying attention. And what is the connection between an abusive cop killing George Floyd in Minneapolis and alleged racism at Princeton? There isn't any, of course.) Some portions of the letter are harmless and predictable--the standard opportunism of the moment to claim resources and positions--but this proposal is chilling: This is simply a call to violate the contractual academic freedom rights of faculty at Princeton. Have any signatories, one wonders, even thought about academic freedom and its purpose? Do they realize that the only review of "research and publications" by scholars that is consistent with academic freedom is one based on applicable disciplinary standards? Vetting the moral or political bona fides of scholarship is what universities without academic freedom do.
Here is the vid I referenced. I couldn't find the Telemundo version. Like 2pac said, "It wouldn't be LA without the Mexicans"
This is why I have never wanted to be a gun owner and want stricter gun control. When I was in college we went to another school to party and after the party one of my boys got into a fight, I was just standing there trying to figure out what was going on and somebody snuck me from the side, I did not fall but was enraged and if I had a gun you better believe I would have been firing shots. I am a pretty even tempered guy and the thoughts going threw my head scared me, once I calmed down and I knew I would never own a gun. I did realize I could take a punch, I had a knot on my head for about a week.
