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Russia Paid Bounties to Murder US Troops, Trump Lets Them

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  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Contributing Member
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    The intelligence community did it's job an passed the information to the President. The President doesn't want anything bad to be said about Russia - he's made that clear.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    This story is story is already over
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    There hasn't been a death in Afghanistan since the supposed briefing
     
  4. Andre0087

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    I posted this in another thread but don't forget these traitors...

    Senate strips provision from intelligence bill requiring campaigns to report foreign election help

    The Senate will incorporate the annual intelligence policy legislation into the National Defense Authorization Act -- but only after stripping language from the intelligence bill that would have required presidential campaigns to report offers of foreign election help.

    Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Tuesday that Senate Republicans forced the removal of the election reporting provision as a condition to include the intelligence bill on the must-pass defense policy legislation. Earlier this month, the Senate Intelligence Committee approved an amendment on an 8-7 vote from Warner and GOP Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, which added a provision to the Intelligence Authorization Act requiring campaigns to notify federal authorities about offers of foreign election help.

    That bill, however, was unlikely to get Senate floor time on its own, which is why it's being included in the National Defense Authorization Act. The effort to strip the foreign election help provision from the intelligence bill was not a surprise, as acting Senate Intelligence Chairman Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican, predicted earlier this month it would be removed before the bill was on the floor, because of an objection from the Senate Rules Committee.

    Warner bemoaned what he called a "back-room deal" to strip out the provision. "If my Republican colleagues want to strip this legislation out of the NDAA behind closed doors, then I'm going to offer it up as an amendment to force an up-or-down vote and put every member of this body on the record," Warner said on the Senate floor. The amendment approved by the Intelligence Committee was an adopted version of Warner's FIRE Act, which he introduced last year. It would require all presidential campaign officials report to the FBI any contacts with foreign nationals trying either to make campaign donations or coordinate with a campaign.

    Warner tried to bring up his bill on the Senate floor several times over the past year, but Republicans objected each time. When Sen. Marsha Blackburn, a Tennessee Republican, blocked the bill in June 2019, calling it a "blatant political stunt." President Donald Trump applauded her efforts on Twitter.It's not clear if Warner's amendment will get a vote. The Senate is debating the defense authorization legislation on the floor this week.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/30/politics/senate-removes-ban-foreign-election-help/index.html
     
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    He'd start a Donald Trump Jr. Meetup Group but they'd have to meet in secret lest we organize a Black Lives Matter protest to surround the place.

    They'd meet, oh, I don't know.....at the Decatur Road, old Sullivan plantation. In the cellar.
     
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    The intelligence goes back potentially to Feb 2019 so that may not be true.

    Even if it is, the fact that it happened before the briefing still demands a strong US response. To let this go without even the slightest protest is abominable. Can you imagine if Clinton made the same argument with Benghazi? (Hint she did, and Republicans went wild)
     
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    Its was another fake russia story by nyt and schiff. They do it to their base every 2 months or so.
     
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    Good lord.

    You guys live so deep in a bubble I cant even begin to comprehend it.
     
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    Sounds like the Obama birth certificate hoax...which your base couldn't let go of until he released his long form version of it. Can you admit you've been conned by a dumbass?
     
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    Funny that the best trump defenders can hope for is that russians did put a bounty and trump was too ignorant to read about it in the daily briefing...
     
  11. Rocket River

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    If this had happened on Obama's Watch
    The same people dismissing it would have called him all kinds of Traitors
    and demanding his death

    Rocket River
     
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    Wait, which part of this story is false and true?

    the part that there is intel on the bounty?

    the part that it was part of the President daily briefing ?

    the part that taliban did get paid?

    the part that American soldier were killed ?

    the part that trump doesn’t read his daily briefing ?

    the part that the briefer didn’t brief trump even though it’s in the briefing ?

    the part that the briefer doesn’t brief about Russian hostile act?

    the part that the president ignored covid19 as a serious thing? I meant that the president can’t be informed of serious things because of who he is?


    Hard to keep up with all these things


    and now that trump knows, what is he doing about it?
     
  13. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    I think not just Obama but probably any past president.
     
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    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    you need a better source than the federalist. They lost all reputation awhile back.

    If he knew that other congress members knew too. It shouldn’t be hard to find out who all knew from a source claiming such.
     
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    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    But Hemingway bro!
     
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    https://memecrunch.com/meme/18PP/b****-please/image.jpg
     
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    ...I love the stupidity of these types of arguments.

    Let's just say for giggles that Adam Schiff was the only senator who had any knowledge of this going on.

    What's he supposed to do with the information that he received from multiple sources in the intelligence community...the CIA, for instance?

    Hold a committee? Start an investigation?

    How would he do that without compromising the intelligence assets (persons) that provided the information in the first place? Committees are generally formed and conducted AFTER some type of action or inaction regarding specific knowledge of events has occurred.

    Or let's say Schiff gets into such a huff about finding something like this out, that he calls or gets ahold of some generals (or even the Joint Chiefs of Staff) and demands that they do something about this.

    Hell, let's say Schiff is feeling so much of his oats that he gets ahold of the corps in Afghanistan and orders them to do something. He could even have a nice letter drawn up and sent over to Vladimir Putin, telling him how much trouble he's in for this stuff (worked with that Iran Deal schmozz by the Senate Republicans, didn't it?).

    Know what?

    Schiff can't do any of those things. He's a Senator. He's not a soldier or a captain or a general in the Armed Forces. Not one of those authority positions fall under his direct control or command. If he'd even bothered to inform or direct or command anybody wearing a military uniform (not to mention some commanding general someplace) they would have laughed in his face. Not everybody's going to get away with what Sean Hannity did recently, because most of the commanding officers aren't that kind of stupid.

    That's why the intelligence briefings are given to Congress AND the White House. Everybody can have a pretty good idea of what's going on (provided they can bother to read the damn briefings they get).

    The Commander-in-Chief of the United States Armed Forces is the president. He's the one who can order generals and do anything remotely like affect any kind of resolution of something like this in an active theater of war. Don't get me started on the complications that the Patriot Act has made in determining what exactly defines a "theater of war", either.

    I just want to know one thing.

    Who the hell thought it was a good idea to replace American Civics with Home Economics as an essential course in a high school education?o_O
     
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    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    I think according to the attack on him, he should act like a commander-in-chief! Why wouldn't you hold him (and in fact, Congress) responsible?

    Dogs love red meat.
     
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    The Intelligence committee? Again that's not how the Constitution works. Intelligence gathering is under the Executive branch. The Intel Committee can conduct investigations under Congressional oversight but they can't gather their own intelligence. They rely upon their subpoena power to get testimony from intel agencies in the Executive branch.
     
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    Even if this is true (ITS NOT), would you say the same thing if the Trump campaign had damning information on Hunter Biden and released it in October instead of June? Would that completely negate the substance and the factual evidence due to the political release of information into the public?

    This story is damning, and it is backed up by multiple sources, some even in the UK. It was released in the Wire, an intelligence briefing sent to over 1000 people in the intelligence community who have classification status.

    It's a real story, and its a story of a President, and administration who knew that Russian's were killing our troops through proxy and not only did nothing, but doubled down on their efforts to reward Russia/Putin at the exact same time.

    So I guess you are okay with that though because you obviously care more about Putin and Russia's benefit than you do our military. Cause all you seem to care about over the past 3 years is Putin getting what he wants from Trump so Putin will help Trump in the November election and you don't have to worry about that little pesky thing called Democracy anymore. You just get the government you want with a corrupt autocratic thug at the top who you just so happen to agree with on a couple social issues.

    You are pathetic. Just move to Russia if American Democracy is so bad.
     
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