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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ThatBoyNick, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. Andre0087

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    Learn to use your head for more than a hat rack. The governor and the president don’t know what the hell they’re doing.
     
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    Only 784 deaths in US yesterday due to covid. Stop being so negative you guys.
     
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    Just passing info I got in an email.
     
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  4. deb4rockets

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    Maybe he learned his lesson and doesn't want to repeat a mistake that ended up fatal for too many. That's encouraging, unlike Trump, who never admits to mistakes in his handling of anything, and in fact does quite the opposite. All he does is brag about what a great job he has done in every situation, including this pandemic.

    As the leader of our country, that's too much like sociopathic/psychopathic/narcissistic behavior for me to feel safe and secure with his position of power.
     
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    Gov. Abbott halts elective surgeries in large cities as COVID-19 fills up hospitals

    Elective surgeries suspended in Travis, Bexar, Dallas and Harris counties


    @bigtexxx @Roscoe Arbuckle
     
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  7. Ziggy

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    Yep, no penile implant surgeries for those 2.
     
  8. NewRoxFan

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    Now now, the governor didn't say anything about microsurgery...
     
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    Continues the sharp trend downward that's been ongoing since April.

    and FYI - those are people who died with Covid. Not all "due to Covid" - most people have many comorbidities.
     
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    Keep those bars and restaurants open. They can't make you wear a mask when you eat and drink...wink wink
     
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    Yeah, that's right. Why are people getting all worked up about hospitalizations, non-death outcomes. Buncha fake news, news p*rn, p*rn news, fake p*rn.
     
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    Abbott led the state to this disaster, yet still won't order Texans to take the steps needed to deal with a pandemic that didn't have to be as bad as it is in Texas, and it is getting much worse. Abbott is afraid that he might "upset" trump, which is outrageous.

    The fellow in the White House, as well as Vice-President Pence, keep misleading the public about the need to wear masks and social distance, as well as limit exposure to crowds as much as possible. Both ignore the advice of the scientists in public and have repeatedly given out false information, while leading their ardent followers to believe those steps, and more, are not needed. We are seeing just how reckless this void of leadership at the top, both at the federal level and the state level in Texas, has proven to be.


    From Newsweek:

    Houston ICUs at 97 Percent Capacity as Texas Coronavirus Cases Break Records

    BY EMILY CZACHOR ON 6/24/20 AT 10:02 AM EDT

    lmost all intensive care unit beds at Houston hospitals were occupied on Wednesday as Texas reported a record number of statewide patient admissions related to the novel coronavirus.

    During a City Council meeting Wednesday morning, Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner said 97 percent of the city's ICU beds were filled. A report from the Texas Medical Center (TMC) said 27 percent of those beds were occupied by COVID-19 patients.

    According to data published earlier this week by the TMC, a network of health care and research institutions based in Houston, 90 percent of the city's ICU beds were filled as of Monday. Virus patients accounted for more than one-quarter of those occupancies.

    The TMC's latest report incorporated ICU admission numbers from seven affiliate hospitals in the Houston area: CHI St. Luke's Health, Harris Health System, Houston Methodist, MD Anderson Cancer Center, Memorial Hermann, Texas Children's Hospital and University of Texas Medical Branch. The hospitals can collectively admit 1,330 ICU patients at regular capacity, when 70 to 80 percent of total beds are typically occupied, according to the TMC.

    The TMC's Monday report noted that an additional 373 beds could become available under its "sustainable surge" plan, a procedure that would indefinitely increase ICU capacities as needed during the pandemic. Another 504 beds could be added to Houston ICUs under an emergency "unsustainable surge" plan, which the TMC would implement to address a "significant, temporary" influx of patients, according to its report.

    Newsweek reached out to the TMC for comment but did not hear back before publication.

    Houston's heightened ICU admissions were reported as cases and hospitalizations related to the coronavirus are spiking throughout Texas. Ongoing data released by the Texas Department of State Health Services show that of all the state's regions, the Houston area is one of the hardest hit in terms of virus incidence and hospital admissions. The latest DSHS data estimated that 179 ICU beds were available at medical facilities located in the Greater Houston area as of Tuesday afternoon.

    The number of patients hospitalized with the virus peaked in Texas on Tuesday, as the DSHS confirmed more than 4,000 current admissions. The state has set new records for hospitalizations related to COVID-19 every day since June 12, when 2,166 patients were reported.

    On Monday, the Houston Health Department said hospitalizations due to the virus had increased 177 percent throughout the surrounding county since May 31. It also noted a 64 percent increase in ICU patients who had tested positive for the virus.

    Texas also saw its highest daily increase in virus cases on Wednesday, with 5,489 new diagnoses confirmed. The latest single-day record surpassed its previous high of 4,430 new cases reported last Saturday. Cumulative diagnosis data reflected in graphics published by the DSHS show a sharp upturn in cases reported statewide since the start of June, when about 64,800 total cases were confirmed. As of Tuesday afternoon, the number had risen to more than 120,300. The DSHS estimated that roughly 47,400 of those cases remain active.

    Businesses in Texas started to reopen at the beginning of May. Although Texas Governor Greg Abbott has not required residents to wear face masks in the state's public spaces during the reopening process, he did encourage people to do so earlier this week in response to increasing case counts and hospitalizations.

    "Wearing a mask will help us to keep Texas open. Not taking action to slow the spread will cause COVID to spread even worse, risking people's lives and ultimately leading to the closure of more businesses," he said during a news conference on Monday.

    https://www.newsweek.com/houston-ic...texas-coronavirus-cases-break-records-1513077
     
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    People like bigtexxx minimize the pain and suffering these people and their families go through while being hospitalized with a serious and possibly deadly situation. The isolation, fear, etc...is not pleasant. Deaths are not the only stat that matters.
     
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    Heaven forbid people would have to eat at home or make/buy their own alcoholic beverages. The horror!
     
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    We get wine, beer, whatever we might want delivered to our front door. We get steaks for the grill. What I miss are the friends to hang out with while consuming said beverages and other goodies.
     
  18. DVauthrin

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    I completely understand how you feel. I was simply pointing out that going out to eat and drink at restaurant or bar is something we should all be able to temporarily go without during a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic. We have plenty of other options at our disposal.

    My wife, daughter and I have pretty much spent two days every weekend at my parents’ house during the pandemic. Pre-pandemic, we always went out to eat as a family on Friday and Saturday nights (Friday nights usually included my sister, brother in law and my nieces). It has been a change to either have food delivered or picked up curbside and eat at their house, but we’ve managed. Pre-pandemic, we always would go out to eat for someone’s birthday. Now, the nine of us gather at my parents’ house, and we swim and either order in food or everyone helps cook. Last Saturday for my birthday and Father’s Day, we were in the pool from 2 until 8, only temporarily getting out to eat fajitas from Los Cucos. I prefer celebrating birthdays this way and hope we do so more often after the pandemic subsides. My daughter and her two elementary-age cousins get more time to play with each other, and we get to hang out longer as a family.
     
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    Even you aren't dumb enough to know that there is about a 2 week delay from hospitalizations to deaths.

    HOWEVER.... if in two weeks we see that even with a surge in cases that deaths continue to go down, that's a good sign. I think there is a combination of a couple things that are potentially going to contribute to deaths going down even though infections are increasing:

    -Use of the Steroid that starts with a (D) that is found to be helping fight cases that are severe. Check out MedCram's latest video on this steroid they are using
    -Doctors are simply getting better at treating. Simple things like Proning (turning patients on their stomach) actually is helping doctors fight it.
    -Masks helping viral load. We know that doctors early on suffered horribly when we didn't have proper PPE to help protect them, and they would get massive viral loads which led to worse cases. People are still going to get the virus, but having a barrier going into the entry path for the virus could be key in getting lighter amounts of viral load leading to less severe cases.
    -(most optimistic thought) The virus is mutating into a less severe disease. I find this to be the most unlikely but boy... that would be great if the virus is simply getting less deadly.

    Still... a friend of mine in Fort Worth tested positive last week, and he said it straight up sucks. Worst bug he's ever had, and the doctors told him actually his case is considered normal, and not severe. He had horrible nausea and migraines on top of the normal symptoms of cough, and fever around 99. My great uncle also just passed away. He was in his 80's though, but yeah it's still deadly for older people if you get it and pass it on to your loved ones.

    There's also the fact that if cases continue to spike that you will NOT get the wonderful treatment you'd normally get at some of the best hospitals we normally have in Texas and Houston specifically. So it's in EVERYONE'S best interest to see the cases go down to a more manageable level for that very reason.

    Don't be a Dick. Wear a mask, and avoid social situations of face to face contact without social distancing. It's not that hard people.
     

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