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George Floyd autopsies

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, May 31, 2020.

  1. Invisible Fan

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    It's a broken record with some people. This board has seen rationalizations of murdering Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner (tons of others that I can't think of right now).

    OP can't even think originally and is using the script for Garner who was noticeably fat. He probably wrote the same awful things in those threads.

    That's the real problem in of itself. Current rioting more likely due to unemployment and isolation, but it's not like George Floyd's murder was just one isolated incident or "I can't breathe" came from nowhere...
     
  2. MystikArkitect

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    This was clearly Floyd's fault for using drugs and probably going to Antifa rallies where people know the 5G signals emitted by Bill Gates cause your necks to be weaker.

    He probably targeted this poor officer specifically. Sad stuff.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    No Collusion!
    No Quid pro Quo!
     
  4. JayGoogle

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    hmmmmmmmm

    So...you agree with the professional report then that the arrest DID play a factor in his death or not?
     
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    Actually that's not what the "preliminary" autopsy revealed. It said that there wasn't a sign of strangulation - but did list the cause of death as a combined effect of things INCLUDING the police restraint.

    By ignoring that part you are clearly here to mislead and try to "win" an argument so that you can taunt and troll, and try to push your agenda. Sadly, we do know the facts so please, stop trying to spread spin and misinformation.

    The Facts:

    1. Putting your knee on someone's neck is AGAINST police training
    2. He put his knee on his neck for 8 minutes and the victim complained about breathing
    3. The victim died during that period
    4. The preliminary autopsy listed the restraint as a contributing factor to his death



    Those four facts are enough to convict on a manslaughter charge at the very least. That's why the officer was arrested.

    These are the facts. Not the make believe world you live in where black people are criminals and police are always right.
     
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  6. Invisible Fan

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    A Decade Of Watching Black People Die
    May 31, 202011:15 AM ET
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    The rate at which black Americans are killed by police is more than twice as high as the rate for white Americans. This is a non-comprehensive list of deaths at the hands of police in the U.S. since Eric Garner's death in July 2014.

    The last few weeks have been filled with devastating news — stories about the police killing black people. At this point, these calamities feel familiar — so familiar, in fact, that their details have begun to echo each other.

    In July 2014, a cellphone video captured some of Eric Garner's final words as New York City police officers sat on his head and pinned him to the ground on a sidewalk: "I can't breathe." On May 25 of this year, the same words were spoken by George Floyd, who pleaded for release as an officer knelt on his neck and pinned him to the ground on a Minneapolis street.

    We're at the point where the very words people use to plead for their lives can be repurposed as shorthand for completely separate tragedies.

    Part of our job here at Code Switch is to contextualize and make sense of news like this. But it's hard to come up with something new to say. We covered the events in Ferguson, Mo., in August 2014 after Michael Brown was killed by the police, and we were in Baltimore after Freddie Gray's death in 2015. We covered the deaths of Eric Garner, Philando Castile, Alton Sterling, Delrawn Small.

    We've talked about what happens when camera crews leave cities still reeling from police violence. We've reflected on how traumatizing it can be for black folks to consume news cycles about black death, the semantics of "uprisings" versus "riots" and how #HousingSegregationInEverything shapes police violence. All of these conversations are playing out again.

    Since it's hard to come up with fresh insights about this phenomenon over and over and over, we thought we'd look back to another time, back in 2015, when the nation turned its collective attention to this perpetual problem. We invited Jamil Smith, a senior writer at Rolling Stone, to read from an essay that he wrote at The New Republic more than five years ago titled "What Does Seeing Black Men Die Do for You?"

    In it, he writes:

    "It seems sickly fitting that those killed by police today are no longer transformed into the anointed or the condemned, but, thanks to more advanced and available technology, they become hashtags. With a flood of more videotaped killings, a hashtag seems a brutally meager epitaph, a mere declaration that a victim of police violence was once alive, human, and didn't merit having her or his life stolen.

    Unfortunately, the increased visibility of trauma and death at the hands of cops isn't doing as much as it should be. The legacy of our increased exposure to black death has merely been the deadening of our collective senses."

    The essay is still hauntingly resonant today, as camera-phone videos of black people being killed by police circulate the Internet. And it's a reminder that so much and so little has changed. Since Jan. 1, 2015, 1,252 black people have been shot and killed by police, according to The Washington Post's database tracking police shootings; that doesn't even include those who died in police custody or were killed using other methods.

    We also spent time creating a (very non-comprehensive) list of names of black folks killed by the police since Eric Garner's death in 2014. Using resources including Mapping Police Violence and The Guardian's "The Counted" series, we read the names of people from across the country, of all ages. Some, like Tamir Rice and Sandra Bland, were familiar to us. But others were new — a reminder that many black deaths at the hands of police don't make it to national news.

    We wanted to learn more about each person's final moments before the police ended their lives. Here's some of what we learned:

    Eric Garner had just broken up a fight, according to witness testimony.

    Ezell Ford was walking in his neighborhood.

    Michelle Cusseaux was changing the lock on her home's door when police arrived to take her to a mental health facility.

    Tanisha Anderson was having a bad mental health episode, and her brother called 911.

    Tamir Rice was playing in a park.

    Natasha McKenna was having a schizophrenic episode when she was tazed in Fairfax, Va.

    Walter Scott was going to an auto-parts store.

    Bettie Jones answered the door to let Chicago police officers in to help her upstairs neighbor, who had called 911 to resolve a domestic dispute.

    Philando Castile was driving home from dinner with his girlfriend.

    Botham Jean was eating ice cream in his living room in Dallas.

    Atatiana Jefferson was babysitting her nephew at home in Fort Worth, Texas.

    Eric Reason was pulling into a parking spot at a local chicken and fish shop.

    Dominique Clayton was sleeping in her bed.

    Breonna Taylor was also asleep in her bed.

    And George Floyd was at the grocery store.
     
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    Facts? So you know more by reading off an autopsy report than experts I guess. You are so eager to defend against a black person being killed. Watch the video and tell us again your FACTS.
     
  8. AroundTheWorld

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    if you're stupid enough to believe this is the case I don't know what to say. He was under a great deal of distress, he didn't just magically die from predisposing conditions etc. These things can provoke cardiac arrest. I don't know what it is with trumpsters on here twisting science and medicine, whether its for hydroxychloroquine or whatever.
     
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    Exactly! This is common sense to anyone, @bigtexxx
     
  11. LosPollosHermanos

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    No man, you're a racist POS is what it is. The riots are wrong, so is this. You look for any excuse to overlook a gross act of brutality like this. People like you are exactly whats wrong. You don't understand the pathophysiology, but take sound bites / anything you can to take away from this.

    Btw, its not necessarily the asphyxia, his body habitus combined with pressure there would stop blood flow on top of the respiratory distress he was already in. Do you think asthmatics that die asphyxiate? They tire overtime and give out. You don't have a clue man.
     
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    What's next? Bigtexxx the racist trolling us with a carefully selected quote from MLK.
     
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    When will you stop being a racist?
     
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  14. bigtexxx

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    The public needs to see the footage before the cop has his knee on Floyd’s neck. There likely was a struggle, and we know Floyd had intoxicants (Drugs?) in his body. There could have been some erratic and forceful behavior. I’d like to see the complete footage. This doesn’t give the cop the right to use excessive force, but could help explain how it escalated. We don’t know that the knee to neck killed him. In fact the autopsy suggests it didn’t.
     
  15. Invisible Fan

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    No man, George Floyd would've died anyways...probably spontaneously during that drive and endangered the public safety of the roads.

    Since he's scientically proven to be weak, The Rona Woulda Git Him Anyways!
     
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    Where does it suggest it didn’t kill him?
     
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    It doesn't even matter what happened before, if someone says they cannot even detect a pulse anymore and this guy keeps his knee on his neck for almost another two minutes, there is no justification or excuse for that. None.

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    Don't believe your lying eyes, believe this troll.

    You are a truly despicable human being from your Trayvon Martin performance to your Ferguson troll job to now. You have to question what kind of person comes running to this message board to constantly troll racial tensions for 15 years. I mean, wow. You need some serious therapy.
     
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  20. bigtexxx

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    please note that I was 100% correct in the Mike Brown and Trayvon cases. Do you still think Brown had his hands up? Was proven wrong. There are dead people due to folks believing the media’s false narrative. My hope is that people wait before rushing to judgement and then killing other people because they believe a lie.
     

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