The View from the Ground: George Floyd Protests

Edit: I need to lookup some stuff to check this.

 

Dude, I know our president and a few here on this forum have been completely irrational when discussing China and the coronavirus, but if you feel any sympathy for the victim or the community, this isn't the way to show it. In the long run, posts like you made aren't going to help your cause,

 

The looting and destruction undermines the message. I am a pretty big “**** the police” type of person but this is bad optics.

 

The corollary to this is, "if you commit enough crime, then you'll be treated as a criminal".

 

Ya that's the view held by racists over this particular subject (black crime and poverty) who think causality doesn't exist over the past 400 years.

 

You have not seen his posts bro. This is a little pink working for WinnieTheFlu, he is here to post propaganda for the ChiCom and crap on America. Don’t fall for his tactics, you’re a lot smarter than this unless you just want to make it out that I’m a hypocrite of some sort. First of all, where do you get that I’m overly concerned with the destruction of property here in Minneapolis and praised the HK protesters destroying private property? I have not given my thoughts on both scenarios so don’t put words in my mouth based on the response I gave to that 70 cent soldier. If you want my opinion then we’ll have a dialogue.

 

You felt more compelled to bring up your thoughts about property destruction when it was poor black people doing it rather than Hong Kong rioters. You can' be excused here for merely not expressing an opinion because you've participated in Hong Kong protest threads and never condoned it while you condone it here.

Maybe this is an opportunity for you to have some introspection and understand your implicit biases.

 

They got the whole PD at the fired cop's house. Nobody is defending the businesses from being trashed.

 

The majority of people I've seen on TV running out of the store with TV's under their arms where white. How do you reconcile that?

It's a shame that the looting going on might distract from the core issue which needs to be addressed. I hope the cop who had his knee on the guys neck gets Murder One. He had nine minutes to let him up for air. Predicated murder can happen within 9 minutes, IMO.

 

They should have all showed up with AR15s and anti-tank weapons

Rocket River

 

Here you again, you’re still in that accusatory mode and expect an honest dialogue? Where the hell do you keep getting that shiet about poor black vs HK protesters out of my one reply to that commie troll? You want to have an honest dialogue or just spewing crap again? Dialogue always begins with good faith and not accusations. I disagree with plenty of your takes, but I never accuse you of what’s in your heart. You have a right to believe what’s in your heart but you won’t let others have the same right like you?

 

Don't recall seeing any mass looting in the hk protests.

I expect and can forgive/tolerate a certain & limited, amount of public destruction in any protest. But once it becomes an excuse for wanton destruction and looting, those people need to be arrested and charge.

 

So why didn't you condone the destruction of property in the HK threads when you care about it here?

Your post history for me makes me not have the benefit of the doubt with you. I can't help how your comments and post history shape my opinion of you.

 

Destruction of property is destruction of property.

 

Yeah I definitely remember that and imo while unfortunate is an expected and excepted reality in mass protests. I think the red line is when the protesters becomes rioters and looters. Which I believe the hk protesters may have crossed in terms of rioting on a couple occasions. Which in my opinion doesn't benefit anyone.

 

Who are “these groups” that you speak of?

 

Looting is looting, murder is murder, violence is violence, grapes are grapes, oranges are oranges. The hangout is the hangout, debate is debate and discussion is discussion. Fin

 

So are you implying that looting is morally less justified than destroying other people's property?