Are Scottie Pippen and Reggie Miller overlooked or overrated?

Otis Thorpe was underrated.

 

Imagine him as the starting 5 on this year's team.

 

I just saw on basketball reference that Pippen was only a 7x All Star. Caught me off guard, I assumed he would've had more

 

Have not seen a list. Pippen is for sure ahead of dj j. Pippen should trail LeBron by only a very slim margin.

Of course Otis Thorpe was underrated.

Otis Thorpe was more dependable than Ralph Sampson, for sure. Any fool could see Otis Thorpe was better than Ralph Sampson.

 

Would Reggie Miller be any better than Klay Thompson today?

 

Consider the match ups against bulls in 1998.

Jordan got ran down trying to stay with Reggie miller yet Jordan was forced to guard Reggie miller because it was impossible for Jordan to guard Indiana point guard Travis Best in 98 ecf.

 

He was 35 years old, lol, of course he got run down.

NBA defenses were not very innovative then, a modern team would have just let him guard Dale Davis, and if the Pacers were dumb enough to go for a steady diet of Dale Davis post-ups, so be it.

 

Pippen overrated -- Miller underrated.

 

Jordan missed those two game winning opportunities against pacers in game 6 of the 1998 ecf so that basically confirms that Reggie miller was a decoy used to tire out players to more or less soften up the defense.

In game 6,Jordan took a bad shot and missed that weak side jumper when game was tied and then Jordan tripped on the drive to the basket so yeah chasing Reggie miller made a difference. You can call Reggie miller over-rated and maybe Travis Best was under-rated.

The 1998 ecf wasn't easy for the bulls against pacers and Reggie miller.

 

I’m a long time Chicago resident since the early 90s as a kid and have grown to watching the Bulls through out the years. My take on Scottie Pippen is that he is neither underrated or overrated. He is what he is, a very good player that started out playing under a system that utilized his young talent really well. Eventually he became good enough as an all around player due to his versatility, height and wingspan.



He was a consistent player with great versatilities but my knock on him was that he rarely shows up in clutch moments and is not considered to be clutch overall. He was a front runner...does good things when the team is ahead but when the team starts to fall behind, he would disappear, letting Jordan and the role players bringing the team back. An example of this was his horrible free throw attempts in late game situation. I don’t even remember Phil Jackson drawing up any late game plays for him during the 94-95 season without Jordan. They actually had a pretty good record that year too. Lets not forget his disappearing act during the 4th quarter of the 2000 Finals where he was traded to the Portland Trail Blazers.



He was the perfect Robin to Jordan because of the intangibles that he brings to the team. That’s why he fit so well only to be strengthen by his great defense. As an individual player, he is good but not great, but he does excel playing under a team concept, to a point where he is playing better then what he really was. Playing along side Jordan where he gets all of the attention will do that to you. I believe the only people that overrates him are the ones that are trying to devalue Jordan as a player to make a claim that this X player is better when being compared to MJ. Mind you, Jordan probably wouldn’t win a lot of rings without Pippen. No super star in the league can win by themselves without another all-star caliber player at the minimum. I also blame the “Last Dance” doc for making the narratives that Pippen is this super star that is underpaid. While there is truth to this and that he IS underpaid yes, but just not in the same term relatively to other super star in the league of the 90s.

 

Pippen had four playoff appearances after he turned 35. Pippen was 39 in the playoffs in 2003 when Zac randolph took over the starting forward job for Portland in the Mavs series.

 

Everybody was a defehsive player back then cuz they allowed handchecks. It didnt matter if the dude was quicker and faster than you just slap the ball away if you miss hit their hands thats just a handcheck bro.

 

If you are the 25th best player all time you ain't a second option cmon man how many players have ever played in the NBA since the 1980s? Pippen spent most of his as a Robin cuz they had Jordan, if they had a lesser player like Ewing or Robinson he could as easily have been the Kobe of their team.

Just take a look at Iggy he was the 6th man on GSW but prior to that he was the star and centerpiece of the Sixers.

 

Thanks for this, I don't think anyone could've said it better than this.

 

In this case yeah, because his running mate is #1 of Alltime.

But true, in any other case, he wouldn't be.

Mentally Scottie isn't as strong, so the #25 is because folks liked his allround game and Defense.

And not because he is such a good leader or closer.

Also his flaw is really conspicuous, he really did not adapt to anything other system than the Triangle very well and being #1 option did take away from his forte.

Highly subjective.

 

If Pippen wasn't mentally strong he wouldn't have become one of the best players ever. You need mental strength to be an NBA superstar especially when you have a monumental jerk like Jordan on your team. Jordan isn't exactly the mentoring type, he probably cursed out all his teammates and would beat them up if they sucked if Pippen wasn't mentally strong he wouldn't stay on Chicago he would ask for a trade to another team.

Jordan is the best closer of all time but he isn't exactly leader material he isn't the guy who will inspire everyone on his team to do better. His teammates are scared of him and hate him, do you think that's a good leader?

I dunno what's highly subjective about Pippen cmon man.

 

Gave it a lot more thought, and I'm thinking now that maybe these are just two of the ugliest players ever. So not so much overlooking them, as it is just not wanting to look at them.

 

Rewatch 1998 bulls pacers ecf game 3 to see the four dunks pippen put on the pacers. Pippen got one of his dunks with under 30 seconds remaining in the fourth quarter.