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[MAJOR MEDIA CONSPIRACY] WaPo Edition: Rockets the NBA franchise most deserving of a championship

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  1. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Contributing Member
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    what were they THINKING??

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...re-nba-franchise-most-deserving-championship/

    Rockets are the NBA franchise most deserving of a championship
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    Rockets guard James Harden is deserving of a ring. (Rick Bowmer/AP)
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    By
    Neil Greenberg
    May 19, 2020 at 1:24 p.m. EDT

    NBA Commissioner Adam Silver reportedly plans to decide in a few weeks when and how the league will resume the season, which was suspended indefinitely March 11 because of the novel coronavirus pandemic. Monumental Sports & Entertainment CEO Ted Leonsis, managing partner of the Washington Wizards, is optimistic the league will try to finish some or all of the regular season and then go into the playoffs.

    At the time of the shutdown, the Milwaukee Bucks were the favorite to win the NBA title. Led by Giannis Antetokounmpo, the reigning MVP, the Bucks were 53-12 and projected to waltz through the Eastern Conference in dominant fashion, per Basketball Reference’s playoff probabilities report. Milwaukee is given a 69 percent chance to win the conference and a 51 percent chance of hanging the next championship banner. In the Western Conference, Basketball Reference had the Los Angeles Lakers as the favorite to be the last team standing (44 percent chance to win the conference; 19 percent chance to win the Finals).

    Yet if we are looking at which team is most deserving to win a championship, by virtue of above-average seasons and consistently good rosters, then neither of those teams fits the bill. Bill James, widely considered the godfather of baseball analytics, presented one method to determine which baseball team was most deserving to win the World Series. He postulated “you deserve to win if you consistently put out a competitive team, which has a chance to win” and went about constructing a simple point system to rank franchises based on merit. It’s so simple, we already applied it to the NFL and can easily adapt it to the NBA as well.

    All teams get zero points at the start of the 2004-05 season, the first year the league expanded to 30 teams with new divisional alignments separating the league into six divisions of five teams each. A team gets one point if it fails to win the NBA title in that year, another point if it made the playoffs, two more points if it finishes with 50 or more wins and three more points if it wins 60 or more. The points accrue each year the team fails to win a championship. If a team wins the title, its point total resets to zero. Win two titles in any five-year span, and the point total is reduced to minus-10. As you would expect, this system will send the Golden State Warriors to the bottom of the list. Their run of three titles in five years is not what we are looking for. We are looking for teams that field a competitive, playoff-bound club every year but fall short.

    Disagree with some of the teams on this list? Let us know in the comments.


    1. Houston Rockets

    71 points; last won NBA title in 1995

    Odds to win 2020 championship: 20-1 (as of March 9 per the Westgate SuperBook)

    Houston has averaged 48 wins over the past 16 seasons, topping the 50-win mark nine times, and posted a 65-win campaign in 2017-18. The Rockets have made the playoffs 11 times in that span. However, they have not advanced past the conference finals since 2012, despite having James Harden, a perennial MVP candidate and winner of the award in 2017-18, on the roster.

    Harden has led the league in scoring three straight seasons and is often among the NBA’s most efficient scorers, using his bulk to muscle his way to the rim or create space behind the three-point line. His cumulative game score, an all-in-one metric designed to give a sense of how good a player is in all facets of the game, while with the Rockets (22.9) is the highest in that time period. Three of the players in the top five (LeBron James, Kevin Durant and Stephen Curry) have eight championship rings among them. Harden’s playoff game score (20.3) is the seventh best since 2013 and slightly higher than Curry’s, illustrating he doesn’t take his foot off the gas during the postseason.

    T-2. Denver Nuggets

    55 points; never won NBA title (44-year drought)

    Odds to win 2020 championship: 25-1

    Much of Denver’s inclusion on this list is thanks to George Karl, who turned the franchise around starting in 2004-05. Karl went 32-8 as interim coach that year and followed that up with nine straight playoff appearances. Yet the Nuggets only made it out of the first round once: in 2009, when they fell in the Western Conference finals to the Lakers in six games. After Karl was let go following the Nuggets’ early exit from the 2013 postseason, the franchise wouldn’t make its next playoff appearance until 2019, a second-round loss in seven games at the hands of the Portland Trail Blazers.

    Still, six seasons with at least 50 wins, plus a 43-22 record in 2019-20 before the season was halted, give Denver a résumé that is worthy of inclusion on this list. Not convinced? Also consider that, from 2004-05 to 2019-20, Denver outscored opponents by 1.9 points per game more than an average team, after taking into account strength of schedule, giving the Nuggets the seventh-best adjusted scoring margin over that span.


    T-2. Oklahoma City Thunder

    55 points; last won NBA title in 1979 (as the Seattle SuperSonics)

    Odds to win 2020 championship: 100-1

    The Thunder is one of seven teams to win 700 games or more from 2004-05 to 2019-20 and play in at least 100 playoff games in that span. Five of the teams on that list — the Spurs, Mavericks, Heat, Celtics and Warriors — won at least one title.

    Durant, the No. 2 draft pick in 2007, and Russell Westbrook, the No. 4 pick in 2008, were the catalysts for five straight playoff appearances, including an NBA Finals appearance in 2012 for a team that also included Harden. Durant, the 2013-14 MVP, joined the Warriors in 2016, but Westbrook, the 2016-17 MVP after averaging a triple-double, has carried the franchise to three more postseason berths in Durant’s absence.

    4. Portland Trail Blazers


    50 points; last won NBA title in 1977

    Odds to win 2020 championship: 100-1

    The franchise whiffed by taking Greg Oden over Durant in the 2007 draft but rebounded nicely, winning 50 or more games five times since then with nine playoff berths, including six in a row entering this season. Give credit to Damian Lillard, the No. 6 draft pick in 2012, for that respectable run. The point guard was the 2012-13 rookie of the year and has since been selected to four all-NBA teams.

    And since Lillard’s arrival, the Trail Blazers have the seventh-highest offensive rating (110.1 points per 100 possessions) and the seventh-highest opponent-adjusted scoring margin (plus-1.7 points per game).

    T-5. Los Angeles Clippers

    49 points; never won NBA title (50-year drought)

    Odds to win 2020 championship: 3-1

    The Clippers’ problem isn’t winning games or getting to the playoffs. They have won 50 or more games five times making seven playoff appearances in the past eight years. They were 44-20, the second-best record in the West, before this season was paused. Unfortunately, they’ve never made it past the second round.

    That should change during the next postseason. Kawhi Leonard and Paul George lead a squad that is outscoring opponents by almost seven points per game after adjusting for opponent, third-best in the league, with offensive and defensive ratings in the top five. Only the 2013-14 and 2014-15 Clippers were better in all three categories in franchise history.


    T-5. Utah Jazz

    49 points; never won NBA title (46-year drought)

    Odds to win 2020 championship: 40-1

    Karl Malone and John Stockton said goodbye to the Jazz in 2003, forcing the franchise to rebuild without them. It took a few years to get back to the 50-win plateau, but from 2006-07 to 2009-10 the Jazz was a playoff team, and it has added four more appearances since, including three straight heading into the 2019-20 campaign.

    The high point was in 2007-08. That year, Utah went 54-28 (including a 19-game home winning streak) and outscored opponents by almost seven points per game after adjusting for strength of schedule.

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  2. Patience

    Patience Contributing Member

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    Was confused by this line:
    "have not advanced past the conference finals since 2012"

    We last advanced past the conference finals in 1995. We last advanced to the conference finals in 2018.
     
  3. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    That scoring system isn’t Most Deserving. It’s Most Hard Up

    If you apply this scoring system to sex ... You don’t want to be the guy who is most deserving of sex.
    lulz :D

    Accumulated score since 2004-05 “season”
    1 pt for 1st base with a girl,
    2 for 2nd,
    3 for 3rd,,,
    but home runs reset your score to zero
    ...so sad
     
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  4. jordnnnn

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    Seemed like he was trying to say we haven’t been to the finals even though we have had Harden since 2012.

    Also... Gamescore is what it is, but pretty interesting he is #1 regular season and #7 postseason since joining Houston.
     
  5. ApacheWarrior

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    Typical media shenanigans.....they build up an item/person/team, only to hope they fall.
    The greater elevation, the greater the fall.

    I called the same thing with the NBA MVP race last season. I said Harden was being propped up early.....
    they would find another player to actually win it at the end. Hello Greek Freak


    Or yeah, they are saying we (Rockets) are lame-o’s even with Harden
     
  6. napalm06

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    lmao I also got hung up on this.

    Congrats guys, we made the finals in 2012!!!!
     
  7. TilmanFinancialWindfall

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    You know he knows nothing when he said we haven't made it to conference finals since 2012. Whether he's talking Semi final or WCF, he 's just stupid since we have made it past semi CF 2 times since 2012 into the CF. We have been to the Conforence finals more time than any other teams, except for the Warriors since 2015. Rockets have been in Conference Final every other years since 2015!!!!!

    And we ain't made it past Conference finals since 1995.
     
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    He has a higher scoring average in in the playoff than Curry. But Curry never gets the slack that Harden does. Also, Curry is always hurt in the playoff, Harden plays on in the playoff. No one talks about that either because Curry is the Golden Child while Harden is the perverted dude that likes to touch big booty in Treasure and a silent partner angel investor in the Van Nuy , ChatsWorth, adult movie industry
     
  9. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    No deduction on points for owner and his affiliations?
     
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    According to his Bio, he's a nerd like Morey and covers Hockey, so he really doesn't know anything about the Rockets or the NBA

    He's also unaware that his boss, Jeff Bezo, has a huge beef and mortal enemy of the best friend and twins of the Owner of the Rockets.


    . He is a
    member of the Professional Hockey Writers Association and prefers to be called a geek rather than a nerd.
    Professional Affiliations: Professional Hockey Writers Association
     
  11. smoothie_king

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    God speed nba, rockets, and worldwide.

    Don't trust anything basketball related out of Washington, DC!
     
  12. Jturbofuel

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    Its DC they aren't exactly experts on his winning in the NBA works.
     
  13. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    Hey now Kwame Brown played for them.
     
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    the tide is turning against the Rockets in our nation's capital

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/12/08/james-harden-rockets-holdout/

    The Rockets should trade James Harden after his indefensible holdout

    By Ben Golliver
    Dec. 8, 2020 at 5:02 p.m. EST

    James Harden has always made his defenders work, on and off the court.

    The Houston Rockets star has pioneered new dribbling moves, mastered the step-back three-pointer, built his body into a tank, developed a deep arsenal of tricks and turned the art of simulating fouls into a science. One-on-one, the three-time scoring champ is arguably the toughest cover in the NBA.

    That rare package of skills has always only been half the story with Harden, whose ball dominance, playoff missteps, active social life and failed superstar partnerships have led observers to pin all sorts of negative labels on him: ball hog, choker, party animal and diva. Fans and media members who appreciated his creative, boundary-pushing style often felt compelled to point out that the benefits of the Harden experience always outweighed those costs. During his eight seasons in Houston, he has led one of the league’s winningest teams, earned eight all-star nods, won the 2018 MVP award and reached the conference finals twice. In the NBA’s superstar-driven economy, that was easily worth $40 million a year and whatever headaches popped up along the way.

    But Harden’s actions this week — his preseason holdout and flouting of the league’s coronavirus protocols — were utterly indefensible. While his grievances with the direction of the Rockets and his desire for a trade are understandable, he acted recklessly and caused harm to his teammates and coach with conduct that was detrimental to the league. Harden is correct on the merits — he needs a new home as soon as possible — but he was dead wrong in his manner.

    When the Rockets were eliminated from the bubble playoffs in September, Harden’s expressed view was that they were “a piece away” from a championship. In the three months since, piece after piece has departed, leaving Harden as one of the few remaining players from Houston’s 2018 team, which fell one win short of the Finals. General Manager Daryl Morey: gone. Coach Mike D’Antoni: gone. Chris Paul, Trevor Ariza, Clint Capela and Austin Rivers: all gone. Russell Westbrook, who wasn’t even on the team yet in 2018, has already come and gone, too, landing with the Washington Wizards by trade last week.

    Harden, 31, finally reported to Houston on Tuesday, but he has been around long enough to know that the Rockets are a fringe playoff team in their current state. John Wall’s comeback tour provides a reason to watch, and Christian Wood was a promising grab in free agency, but Houston’s backsliding is bound to accelerate this season. The Rockets’ title window closed when they traded Paul in 2019, and Harden has surely come to realize that he was the last person left at the bar when the lights came on.

    Much of the blame for this predicament falls on owner Tilman Fertitta, the billionaire restaurateur, who promised to bring a fighting culture to the Rockets and subsequently proved to be all bluster. A savvier owner never would have greenlit the Paul trade, ducked the luxury tax while chasing a title or played hardball with D’Antoni in contract negotiations. No other owner in the league would have been captured on film at the White House in May, pleading to President Trump for Paycheck Protection Program money to bail out his restaurants while commenting on the size of the contracts owed to Harden and Westbrook.

    “Russell and James both make $40 million a year and they were still getting paid, so a lot of my employees really wanted that PPP money,” he said.

    Those comments were a terrible look, but so was a maskless Harden partying in Atlanta and Houston this week rather than reporting to training camp. New Rockets coach Stephen Silas was left to face the media, unsure where Harden was or when he might show up. Harden’s teammates took the court without him because, well, the season begins in two weeks and it seems like a good idea to prepare.

    Harden has made clear his desire to reunite with Kevin Durant on the Brooklyn Nets or with Morey on the Philadelphia 76ers, but he has left the Rockets with only bad options. Trading him now, even with two years left on his contract, would require selling low, given the awkward timing and public displays of frustration. But the Rockets only have themselves to blame if they are unimpressed with their trade offers to date, because great owners foster productive relationships with their stars and keep disputes behind closed doors.

    Playing out this season with Harden would amount to wasting a year. Harden and Wall are a poor basketball fit; both need the ball and refuse to move when they don’t have it. Forcing Silas to spend his first season as a head coach constantly walking on eggshells is about as unfair and imprudent as it gets. Expecting first-time general manager Rafael Stone to manage Harden’s personality and reconstruct a contending team around him is asking too much. Yet Fertitta, either spinning or in denial during a CNBC interview, spoke optimistically about Houston’s offseason moves and Harden’s future with the organization.

    It’s time for Fertitta to admit that Houston is better off with a fresh start rather than chasing the past and spinning its wheels around a disgruntled Harden.

    The damage is already done; trading Harden would be the first step toward a solution. As is, the Rockets are and will remain Harden’s team. Until a few weeks ago, that was a good thing. Not anymore.

    If Fertitta really wants to put his stamp on the franchise, he will trade Harden and build a new roster to his own specifications. A rebuild could be long and painful, but Fertitta will deserve all the credit if it succeeds.

    Right now, he can only claim poor decisions, hard feelings and a Texas-size mess.



     
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    LOL we arent trading him to Brooklyn, I dont care how badly these people want it.
     
  16. FLAGRANT1

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    Portland, Houston and Denver are most deserving of a chip
     
  17. daywalker02

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    I see what Washington did there.... roses for Westbrook.
     

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