I think that Trump could potentially beat anyone because of his unshakable and motivated base. I also think that he is very vulnerable and his performance at this point, makes him more vulnerable, daily.
Because my wife will divorce me if I bring any politics up. And there's no point in debating a friend or colleague who has the same opinions. I'll support anyone to have his or her own opinion.....even if it's wrong (like my wife's).
LIES, LIES, AND MORE LIES... I've defended Beto (against legendary CF.net right wing trolls) and Bernie many many many times. I've voted for both. My criticism is equal or I try to be. Also, not that you listen but don't confuse criticizing media for defending Trump. However, I realize I'm wasting my time with you since you don't read or believe what I say. This will be my last reply to you.
Interesting... i directly quoted one of your posts (which for some reason you deleted from your reply to me):
I said I wouldn't but the last time... After my guy was robbed, I'd embraced the chaos because the 2 party system is broken imo. Bernie getting robbed, Hilary with the popular vote, Trump with the victory, gerrymandering laws, lack of youth vote, non-holiday election day, superpacs, etc... it's all facked and it all needs to be replaced.
Now I am confused. You first say you didn't vote nor support him. I post what you posted after trump was elected "'I've very clearly told you why Trump" and how you "wanted him for his potential to ruin our system not govern it" and now you say you only supported him because your guy (Bernie) was robbed"? So what was it... did you support him or not? Honestly, whether and why you support is your own decision. But then claiming you didn't/don't after spending four years defending him here is, well, disingenuous, no? trump won because of people voting for him. Complaining about the system, or saying it needs to be replaced won't prevent him from winning a second term. But again, its your vote.
Your posts are very confusing. You are saying Biden needs to "sell" you - which is confusing given that his whole platform is pretty much out there and its pretty clear what he wants to do and how he would run the country. There's not a lot of mystery there. Let me ask you - whom would you vote for if not Biden? Are you saying you'd stay home or lodge a vote for a candidate that has no chance of winning? Or do you live in a state where you vote matters very little?
I think Biden can win the swing voters and states. Trump's and the Republican party's pathetic response to this crisis has left the door wide-open for a change.
Trumps winning it's over. 2024 is what I as a conservative am worried about. And how would have you handled this? He listened to the doomer approach, which seems to be more the Democrat stance. The numbers are far less then what was anticipated. Once again, most conservatives(Yes myself included) don't like how Trump handled this. Way to much .gov intervention for the lack of numbers we are seeing. If you're going to say the lack of numbers were seeing is because of the orders put in place by the .gov; then what don't you like about how Trump has handled this?
I don't know how you consider the current casualty rate a "success". You remember the freak out people had over H1N1. This current virus has killed more Americans in a month than H1N1 has since its first victim in the US years ago.
The only numbers that have been beaten were a worst case scenario. Trump gave the virus several months head start before doing anything. Prior to the pandemic Trump closed the office and dismantled the group dedicated to Pandemic response. Trump spreads misinformation on a daily basis, has made it clear he is only relating this to himself rather than the nation at large. He's used this to benefit his wealthy donors. Trump had given priority for supplies, not according to need, but according to who Trump feels has given him praise. We have seen other nations take leadership and have been much more successful in handing the outbreak. Trump has taken zero responsibility for any of it. That is the first thing a leader should do. There is almost no way in which Trump has acted with leadership. It will all be highlighted as the election gets closer and the pandemic more under control.
Not saying the numbers are insignificant. But they are waaay less then the early models were predicting. Not sure I referenced it being a "success", but when the numbers are far less then early models were predicting what do you call that?
There are many models. There are worst case scenario models that include initial conditions of no action whatsoever such as the social distancing we have done for the past few weeks in most states. There are hundreds of models each with different initial conditions for different hypotheticals.
I agree. But at least from what I've seen our numbers are far less then any of them predicted? Do you have a model within the month from a reputable source showing the opposite? Call it or "success" or don't. But I'm glad the numbers are far less then what I saw a month ago people were predicting. A lot of people I talk to don't even know the population of the US(Hell- my wife included). Per capita from what I can see we look to be lower on overall numbers compared to every major nation except the UK. Once again, I'll take that... success or not? That's up for you to define.
