Shenzhen has become the first city in China to ban eating cats and dogs

My cut off is disgusting Chinese eating stuff that repeatedly starts pandemics. You seem incapable of understanding something so simple.

 

He's doesn't eat meat, he isn't devaluing the life of dogs, he's raising the value of pigs. Less of a freak then you by your own standards maybe?

I think Jacoby would agree, dogs are ****ing amazing and shouldn't be eaten outside of people starving to death, which isn't a freak opinion to me.

 

Disgusting Chinese? Interesting. Like I said earlier, I'm all for stricter food regulations in both China and the rest of the world, it's very important.

You know we had a pandemic 11 years ago from pigs, right?

Please answer my question, out of the 4 classifications I listed, where is your cut off?

 

You know currently there is a pandemic going on that has killed a million people right? It's the direct result of the filthy habits coming out of that shithole China.

I'm sorry that is too difficult for you to grasp.

 

Do you mean 59,162? Do you know how many died from swine flu? Do you know how many diseases have originated from western animal farming?

Shithole?

Too difficult for me to grasp despite you completely avoiding a simple question?

I've said twice and I will say it a 3rd time so you can understand, I am for the improvement of food regulations, I think it's extremely important. They are not anywhere near good enough in China, they are not good enough in many places in the world, including America.

 

Yeah, this should be move to the D&D.

Jacoby's point is that he loves animals more to not eat animal flesh.

Some people choose animal compassion more over their own personal selfish tastes.

Accusing him of being a hyprocrite is your own projection, and your own failing.

I'm saying I love meat but recognize I'm selfish to eat it.

You can either pretend to be better or be better.

Thanks for the enlightening topic material, as usual.

 

Need to snuff out eastern medicine fantasies. I think that's the reason uneducated people try to eat non-standard meat.

Now people eating dogs/cats, that might just be destitute people.

 

There’s a lot of ignorance in this thread. As someone that has been to China on multiple occasions for work, the sanitization practices in some of the markets I was brought to “tour” was unbelievable. You don’t cut up a live animal (dog, cat, whatever) next to cut up pig or duck or chicken. Talk about a recipe for disaster.

There’s a significant lack of education, especially in rural China areas, where they don’t understand you don’t mix raw meat together. I’ve literally seen raw pig legs with raw duck and raw chicken and raw other meats all stacked on top of each other in 85 degree, humid, weather. There is nothing smart about that and it’s that kind of shlt that causes these crazy viruses.

Having said that, there are parts of Shanghai and Suzhou I’ve been where it’s damn near cleaner than places in the US. There’s a lot of westernized areas along the east coast of China but you don’t have to go very far west to see extreme poverty and disgusting living conditions with even nastier wet markets.

 

Not all modern cities have clean/educated people. A vast majority of people in these modern cities migrated from the East for work. Then they travel home for Lunar New Year. It’s literally called the great annual human migration.

Migrant workers from the West bring their filthy way of living/unsanitary way of life with them to the cities where they aren’t educated on how to properly handle food. Mostly because their customers don’t know any better either because they also came from similar conditions. It’s a culture of myopia and they can thank their leaders for the lack of education and creatives per se.

Everything they have done to modernize is a copy of something the USA and Europe invented and sent to China for manufacturing. They reverse engineer it and call it their own. Nothing will change with the food handling ways until they learn to think intellectually. The problem with that is, when one does, they “disappear”.

 

I live in New York City dude. There are hundreds of businesses that practice live slaughter of animals here. You pick the animal you want, it's taken out of the cage, brought to the back and slaughtered. Cats and dogs aren't the victims, so I'm guessing it's no big deal...or something.

The Kaporos ritual in Brooklyn (that I protest every year) has tens of thousands of chickens crammed in cages so tight that they cannot even move. The birds are crammed in the cages for days at a time before slaughter and a huge number of them die before they get their throats cut. This is done in the streets of Brooklyn, every year. Live birds with open cuts and infections, no feathers, stepping over other dead birds for days at a time. The smell will burn your sinuses for weeks and send people to hospitals. Residents in the street have to cover their noses or risk getting illnesses. Thousands of people in the city want these American wet markets shut down, but nothing is being done about it.

Wet markets are not exclusively a Chinese practice. I suggest you stop believing that America has adequate food safety and slaughterhouse regulations because that is far from the truth. We lag far behind certain European countries when it comes to standards for animal slaughter, and even they are way behind where we ought to be.

 

It's a fine balancing act because these wet markets are the major economic hub of these communities. Would be nice if they went agricultural and sold edibles that way...