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Trump's coronavirus response

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  1. NewRoxFan

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    trump's Coronavirus "news" briefings have devolved into part campaign rally, part suck-up, and part disinformation vehicle that more and more the news sources are choosing to not cover them. Which is probably a good thing...

     
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    Consider it payment for a still unpaid debt.....
     
  4. Amiga

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    potential danger and shortsightedness

    keep it up and.... Germany retaliate by withholding Germany's company vaccine from US
     
  5. NewRoxFan

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    Daily we learn how truly awful and corrupt this administration is...

     
  6. NewRoxFan

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    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    “oh, you know, voting doesn’t matter. All candidates are basically the same.”

    not when the **** hits the fan.
     
  8. NewRoxFan

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    So what do you think is accomplished by the Pence taking over for Trump at this point?

    How does that fundamentally change anything and help the future of the country?

    I am anti trump as they come but invoking the 25th amendment at this point does no good IMO, it will just cause further chaos. :
     
  10. NewRoxFan

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    Yes, I think it fundamentally would change our government and our country. Because even though I don't agree with pence's political positions on, well, most every thing, and while pence has jumped in with both feet in the role of vice presidential suckup, I also don't think pence is anywhere as dishonest and corrupt as trump. Not anywhere near.

    I also think pence would restore (partially, if not completely) confidence in the response to the Coronavirus crisis, which is an immediate need.
     
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  11. NewRoxFan

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    trump's constant excuse for why he was so slow to act... "no one knew"...
    • Schumer was demanding it be designated a national health emergency January 26
    • Biden wrote an op-ed criticizing trump's response that ran on January 27
    • Warren released a plan to respond to the crisi on January 28

    Republicans: ‘Nobody Expected’ the Coronavirus Pandemic. So Joe Biden Is Nobody?
    President Trump, having stopped dismissing the threat of the coronavirus and calling criticism of his laggard response “their new hoax,” has begun insisting everybody was shocked. “It’s something that nobody expected,” he has said. Conservative pundits have picked up this revisionist history. “Armchair Quarterbacks Try to Rewrite History on Coronavirus,” argues National Review’s David Harsanyi. “Generalized ‘Trump didn’t take this seriously enough!’ stuff is ignoring the timeline, wherein every major Democrat didn’t take it very seriously until early March either,” insists Ben Shapiro.

    One example of a major Democrat who took this seriously would be Joe Biden, who, as the party’s presumptive presidential nominee, is arguably the major Democrat. Biden wrote an op-ed on January 27 warning that Trump had left the country unprepared to handle the coronavirus outbreak, and proposing steps to counter it. One of his main advisers, Ron Klain, wrote an op-ed making similar points five days before that.

    The primary defense made of Trump is to compare his laggard response against the straw-man alternative in which the only alternative was to close down everything three months ago. “Now we’re going to act as if politicians were negligent for failing to try to lock down the entire economy in early January?” writes Harsanyi mockingly. Obviously, there were numerous steps available short of a total lockdown. Indeed, the massive lockdown was only necessary because Trump failed to take any advance steps, like mobilizing an effective testing system, stockpiling masks and ventilators, and reconstituting some kind of structure to replace the pandemic response team he dismantled in 2018.

    The “nobody could have known” defense memory-holes the fact that Democrats and Republicans were fiercely debating whether the government should be doing more in the very recent history. Trump’s stance, which he repeated constantly, was that the coronavirus had been contained, was likely to fizzle out, and would not be very harmful. The whole Republican position for weeks was that Democrats and the media were “doing everything they can to instill fear in people,” as Trump put it.

    The Conservative Political Action Conference featured Mick Mulvaney, Trump’s chief of staff, assuring everybody the virus was being overhyped to scare people into blaming Trump. (Trump probably suspected this because Republicans had used this exact strategy to whip up hysteria against President Obama before the 2014 midterms.) “This is not Ebola. It’s not SARS. It’s not MERS. It’s not a death sentence; it’s not the same as the Ebola crisis,” Mulvaney declared. “The reason you’re seeing so much attention to it today is that they think this is going to be the thing that brings down the president,” Mulvaney said. “That’s what this is all about.”

    The Democrats’ position was that the coronavirus was a real threat and the government should actually prepare for it. “For Mick Mulvaney to suggest that Americans turn off their TVs and bury their heads in the sand when they’re worried about a global health pandemic is Orwellian, counterproductive, dangerous and would be repeating China’s mistake,” said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer in February. (Presumably Schumer would also qualify as a “major Democrat.”)

    Some Trump defenders have focused their ire on Joe Scarborough, who mocked Trump for failing to respond until it was too late. Scarborough “set off much controversy by claiming, ‘Everybody saw this [the coronavirus crisis] coming in early January.’ Would have been stronger argument if he had said or tweeted something about the virus threat back then, but he did not,” argued Byron York. “As far as I can tell, in the entire month of January, Morning Joe didn’t reference the coronavirus once to his 2.6 million followers on Twitter,” complains Harsanyi. “Imagine the thousands of lives Scarborough could have saved if he had only shared his insight.”

    Well, okay. We can agree that neither the president of the United States nor the cast of Morning Joe took the necessary measures to protect the country from a deadly pandemic. If the election turns on the theme “Scarborough failed to keep us safe,” then perhaps Trump’s record won’t look so terrible. However, I would strongly urge American voters to look for an alternative to both Trump and Scarborough. Because the person who is running against Trump at the moment very much did see the coronavirus disaster coming.
    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/202...rus-pandemic-joe-biden-did.html?utm_source=tw
     
  12. jiggyfly

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    WTF?

    What do you think you are talking about?
     
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    Trump Practicing Distancing from All His Prior Statements About the Coronavirus
    https://www.newyorker.com/humor/bor...ll-his-prior-statements-about-the-coronavirus
     
  14. SamFisher

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    Hahaha. These ****ing idiots:

    Federal National Stockpile changes website language after dumbshit Jared's facepalm moment






     
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    Wow. Burning all of the diplomatic bridges, because someone didn't take the pandemic seriously.
     
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    So what about the people who believe in Trump?

    Are they gonna just be ok with Trump being removed and does further dividing the country help anybody?

    After being a presidential suck up for 3 years now Pence would restore anything?

    What about infighting in the administration from Pences people and Trump loyalist during this crisis?

    If people do not understand the severity of this crisis, there is nothing a new president can do.

    During this crisis is not the time to fundamentally change the government especially when elections are less than a year away.
     
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  17. SamFisher

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    ....because a bunch of selfish people voted for a complete idiot in our shitshow excuse for a democracy.

    Burn it all down! Oh wait, it's burning and I lost my job, I'm getting evicted and dying. Maybe not burn it ALL DOWN, so much! But get those emails!
     
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    the president could have been honest and did his job
     
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    Damn. This tweet made me think of North Korea and Kim Jong. I wonder if he's taking the NBA's hiatus as good as we are.
     
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    Wow, this is about as much a self-admission that he's full of **** as he has made.

    A non-narcissistic person would understand that and stop getting up there to make a fool of himself while continuing to spread bad info. Unfortunately, we have what we have.
     

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