Wuhan Virus shows nature fighting back against human exploitation

They should call it the Wuhan virus
It’s not offending people because that’s where this started and people in China knew that

calling it the Chinese virus is bad cause people in general are dumb

 

So... you are implying that.. 'nature'... has a 'will'.. and a sentience which monitors man's 'sinful ways'.. and deliberately causes things like plagues, killing sometimes millions of innocent human beings.. as a 'correction'..



Riight.

I suspect when you say 'nature' what you really mean is 'God'. And don't get me wrong, I believe in God, and I believe God cares about our behavior on a personal level.

But you lose me when you imply that this virus (or any other natural disease) is the result of a deliberate action on the part of the creator of the universe.

Because it's not. You can try to call whatever it is you are on about 'nuance', but it's really just ignorant and dangerous babbling.

But do carry on - we need all the entertainment we can get in times like these, even the cringe-inducing kind, such as your posts.

 

I think Senator has watched a few too many episodes of Zoo.

 

Humans creating artificial intelligence that realizes humans are biggest problem for the planet is what not dooms humanity

Its humans eating bats and infecting other humans cause they are too dumb to realize bats have lots of viruses
dumb human thing called 'culture and tradition' no terminators needed

 

It is more complex than that.....

As you said, bats are the reservoir species with resistance against tons of viruses they harbor, they are immune to it while infecting other animals incl. humans.

The virus in most cases travels through the second mammal that serves as the amplifier such as a wild cat, ape or pangolin.

SARS

Bat feces or bitten food---- civet cat------ market------vendor------buyer and consumer------ larger population

 

He is no match to to this dude.

 

You miss the point where he’s singing a Michael Jackson song about the earth and how humans are treating it

which is the point of the thread

 

He's kind of coming from a gaia angle, where the earth itself is seen as a living organism that self corrects when something gets out of control. The belief would be that we've become the "virus" that needs correcting, and he's saying these plagues and natural disasters are the earth/organism's antibodies to fight us.

Still implies kind of a god component to it, conscioiusness of earth itself. Gaia, goddess/ soul of the earth.

 

Agreed.

I do agree that the ecosystem will adjust to any contagions or toxic items. The planet is effectively immortal and will adjust. Life...uh...finds a way. Look at extremophiles or animals moving back into radiation-soaked areas like Chernobyl.

But thinking that there's some sort of planetary conscious is sort of a dreamer's game. Nature and genetics don't care about us individually and if we overtoxify the environment to a point where we can't survive, we will either evolve or die out.

 

Oh so you are going to stick with the idea that 'nature' has some kind of a 'conscious will' and is punishing us for our 'sinful ways' (your words, not mine - which, incidentally, is why it seemed you must really be thinking of God there, as 'retribution for our sins' has always been the realm of God and not 'nature', but whatever).

However, ok, let's roll with your assertion that the Wuhan virus happening today is the direct result of whatever it is you are saying. . So how do you explain the terrible plagues which have swept through human civilization far back in the past? You know, things like the Black Plague.. Bubonic plague..or whatever kind of disease completely wiped out the early Mayan empire, just to grab a couple at random. As there was no technology to toxify the planet, nor was there medicine to try to combat them, why exactly would 'nature' do that then, eh?

I'll help you out. The answer is: 'Just cuz'. We happen to live in an incredibly complex and delicate biosphere, so complex that in fact we don't really even KNOW about most of it yet. And sometimes, THESE THINGS JUST HAPPEN.

For the last several decades we have become somewhat better at fighting back when these things happen, but the sheer complexity of systems means that we will probably never manage to avoid them altogether. All we can do is respond as best we can, and try in the future to be better prepared for the unforeseen.

Yes, it is our obligation as the most intelligent and capable beings in this biosphere to be *good stewards* of the place. And yes, we don't always do a good job of that. We should do better. But there are too many people, such as yourself, who simply give in to some weird compulsion to feel guilty and self-flagellate, and have an overwhelming desire to *cast blame* on human beings as an inherently problematic entity (as though we are somehow alien to this world), leaving the only logical conclusion that human beings can only be moral by NOT EXISTING AT ALL.

Ultimately it's a suicide cult. It's sick and revolting. People should never ever EVER give in to that kind of sick thinking, and anyone who does should be deeply ashamed.