The big problems with her story are as follows: 1. She was in the spotlight a year ago talking about how he touched her. Why didn't she mention this then? 2. Why did she choose this moment to bring it up - at a timing where it's too late to change Biden being the candidate 3. She is a Bernie Bro It's all very fishy, with little evidence. She deserves her say, and seems like she is having it. But there's not much more to go with this unless other women step up and also speak.
Just curious, what were your thoughts on Kavanaugh as he only had one accuser also with no other females stepping forth? Did you attack her liberal political leanings to dismiss Ford's case? In terms of timing, the defense of Ford's timing after many decades of not coming forth was that her defenders including me thought that having her alleged rapist be a Supreme Court Justice was what convinced her to go public. Couldn't the same argument be applied to Biden as his accuser might not want him as president? I'm just trying to get some logical consistency here because pretty much all those points could apply to Ford and we defended her and those points that conservative posters brought up.
Democrats will never admit this, but Kavanaugh was tit-for-tat for the whole Merrick Garland debacle. They felt they had no choice but to follow the example set by McConnell and the Republicans by playing dirty politics. There was a small, very small, chance if they stalled past the midterms they could potentially retake the Senate and vote his nomination down outright. Then, in perfect world, they have control of the Senate and the ability to confirm their own nominee. That said, the root examples of these cases are apples and oranges. CBF seemed like a genuinely credible victim with no appearance of questionable motivations. Sadly, something probably did happen to her, it’s just extremely difficult to make that case when the evidence is minimal and the case is so old. Biden’s accuser, on the other hand, has questionable motivations and credibility issues across the board.
Your lord and savior creates fictitious human beings to launder hush money for adulterously banging p*rn stars and fraudulently dangling TV and magazine column deals to them while his wife is pregnant.
Perhaps there is more to the Biden accusers story. At this point I can only go with what it is known. My skepticism is based on her story changing greatly. Perhaps she has some believable explanation. I am certainly open to changing my mind, as my opinion is far from being written in stone. As for Kavanaugh, he didn’t have 10 complaints of rape or sexual assault which made me question how sure I could be about what he did. What concerned me was that Kavanaugh was caught lying several times. That is why led me to believe that her story was as likely true as not. The whole Biden event is odd. From his accuser suddenly changing her story, to Sanders operatives being involved in every step, to Biden’s very understated response... all very odd.
Yup. His first wife accused him of rape at one point. He paid off another woman to have an abortion because when he cheats on his wife he isn’t responsible enough to use protection. So he already murdered his own child. He “raw dogged” a prostitute while his wife was unable to have sex recovering from the birth of their first child.
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/27/21195935/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation Not sure what the right is complaining about here. No one is saying she doesn't have a right to tell her story, just that - where is the evidence?
Ford had people to corroborate her story and there were multiple women who spoke out against Kavanaugh. He also lied under oath.
Whoever crafted that response from Biden did a good job. It makes him sound confident that he is innocent, it makes him sound sympathetic to sexual abuse victims and also allows him to not seem like a hypocrite.
No, it only points to you having a cult following of Sanders. Biden is not the inspirational Obama/JFK/Lincoln type. No one is drooling over every word he says. Sensible adults can look at the facts and tell a normal accusation versus one riddled with holes.
I'm not sure if her being a Bernie fan is a problem. I mean, if Biden gave me an unwanted titty-twister, I wouldn't be a fan of his either.
At the very least he has capable people around him. With these situations, it's impossible to know what really happened especially 30 years later.
You understand blocking a person from becoming one of the most powerful people on this planet is indeed text book definition of 'motive'? She had decades to deal with this. Both of these situations are very similar, including come from left wing people. What matters, and I said this in the Kavenaugh situation, proof matters. I truly hate this type of behavior, but there is a thing called due process.
Of course it is, but let’s not be naive here. This is somebody that, by all accounts, doesn’t enjoy the public life. Hasn’t attempted to profit from this experience. No book deals. Has proven she had nothing to gain by making these accusations other than putting the truth out there. And because of that she has suffered greatly. She’s received death threats, has had to hire a private security detail and move multiple times. Not to mention, tell a deeply personal story to a congressional committee on live TV for the entire world to see. So when it comes to motive, her’s appears to be very straight-forward. With Tara Reade, it’s not just about timing and I hope you can recognize that. Her story has drastically changed and evolved. Her fascination with Putin is weird, and yeah, as it turns out she’s a Bernie supporter. We’ll see what happens over time as this story evolves, but for right now it remains very clearly an apples and oranges comparison.
Not that I disagree with that statement - its probably fairly accurate .... But if that did happen , who would end up with the nomination ?!
this is insane. every 'witness' she recalled claimed the event never happened. Her story changed multiple times. She can recall nothing about the event except the witnesses who contradict her. She didn't go to the police at the time and told nobody at the time. Her father doesn't even believe her. She is the textbook definition of not credible.
Agreed - and top of that, her made-for-tv outfit with the glasses, hair in her face, and baby voice, just screamed inauthentic. It was all bad acting. How people fell for that is amazing to me. It reminds me why I'm wealthy and most are not. GOOD DAY
