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Return of Death Panels

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Mar 24, 2020.

  1. Rocket River

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_panel

    "Death panel" is a political term that originated during the 2009 debate about federal health care legislation to cover the uninsured in the United States.[1] Sarah Palin, former Republican Governor of Alaska, coined the term when she charged that proposed legislation would create a "death panel" of bureaucrats who would decide whether Americans—such as her elderly parents, or children with Down syndrome—were "worthy of medical care".[2] Palin's claim has been referred to as the "death panel myth",[3] as nothing in any proposed legislation would have led to individuals being judged to see if they were worthy of health care.[4]


    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ck-suggests-he-other-seniors-willing-n1167341

    Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick suggests he, other seniors willing to die to get economy going again
    “Those of us who are 70 plus, we’ll take care of ourselves. But don’t sacrifice the country,” Patrick told Tucker Carlson.


    This is the first step toward death panels
    A Government Official advocating for The Elderly to take one for the Economy
    How long before this guy and his crowd are "would create a "death panel" of bureaucrats who would decide whether Americans—such as her elderly parents, or children with Down syndrome—were "worthy of medical care"
    -- Is that not what happened in Italy?

    Rocket River
     
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  2. No Worries

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    Math ...

    70% of Americans will get CV.
    6% will need ICU with ventilator which without flattening the curve will not be available.

    330 million Americans x 70% infected x 6% dead = 14 million DEAD.

    That is a small sacrifice for Trump to get re-elected and for my investment portfolio to end the year with a gain, no?
     
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    These ****wits need a math class.
     
  4. El_Conquistador

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    [Educational Post]
    This fallacy was actually addressed by physician Deborah Birx yesterday at the press conference. The underlying assuming in this wild forecast is that no treatment, no social distancing, and no vaccines are employed. Also it assumes multiple waves of the virus throughout the USA over several years. With our efforts, we will see a tiny fraction of the wild forecast that you maliciously posted.

    Bless up Dr Birx; she is bringing some sanity to the fear pornographers out there like No Worries.

    GOOD DAY
     
  5. LosPollosHermanos

    LosPollosHermanos Houston only fan
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    these guys are geniuses, they somehow get their dumbass constituents to buy into policies that are detrimental to themsleves
     
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    One problem, the ones that will die are more likely to be Trump voters.
     
  7. Andre0087

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    I don't see 70% of the country getting it, that's a little much on the high side.
     
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  8. No Worries

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    Project much?

    So how many deaths are you willing to accept? I do not expect you to answer since you are a coward.
     
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  9. El_Conquistador

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    [Premium Post]
    We will SAVE LIVES by re-opening the American economy, which will in turn allow for investment in health care research, expanded coverage, and more cures. It will also save people from death due to suicides and depression. Remember, most Americans have health insurance linked to their JOBS. They need these jobs.

    Re-open America to PROTECT life.

    GOOD DAY
     
  10. malakas

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    You forgot to add the milions who will die from other conditions, car accidents and diseases because there will not be avaiable ICU bed or doctor to see them while the healthcare system is overwhelmed.
     
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    Oh I am sure there will not be suicides or depression when americans see their parents and friends die all around them from Covid-19.
    Everyone will be happy because they will go to work!
     
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    Pundits are saying "herd immunity" kicks in at 50% so that would mean

    330 million Americans x 50% infected x 6% dead = 10 million DEAD.

    The 6% is another soft number.
     
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    Better dead than in the red... amirite?
     
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    I agree that Medicare for All is the solution. I'm actually kinda of surprised you're still trolling during a pandemic but whatever.
     
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    It's actually at least 65% for herd immunity.
     
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  16. Rocket River

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    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Most of the dead will be GOP voters.

    DD
     
  18. JuanValdez

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    When hospital capacity is overwhelmed, our doctors will routinely have to make choices of which patients will get care and which will be left to die. At least it's not a government bureaucrat, I guess.
     
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    Trickle down theory but for COVID-19. Interesting.
     
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