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So the Astros 2017 title is tainted

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by rockets13champs, Nov 12, 2019.

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  1. Nook

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    I can tell you that some Astros players and managers felt Torres was cheating and they tried to mix it up later in that series to prevent him knowing.
     
  2. NewRoxFan

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    Harold Reynolds throws cold water on the "Altuve banging, buzzer, and needed signals about what pitch Chapman was throwing"...

     
  3. jiggyfly

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    If you think this last more than none season or even a full season you are being naive.
     
  4. jiggyfly

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    Who can't talk or brag about that championship?

    Did the Yankees or the Giants give their trophy up?
     
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    gawd that’s such a dumb post
     
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    Too many facts. I don’t believe you.
     
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    How does this affect HOF eligibility? Even if Altuve didn't use the system, he may have had runners ahead of him on base that did and that indirectly affected his numbers.
     
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    You’re nuts if you don’t think this championship has an asterisk from others in MLB. This asterisk makes the one they put on Rockets championships look like something smaller than an asterisk that I can think of right now. Because asterisks can technically be pretty small if your font size is small.
     
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    that twitter account that allegedly a current players, that alleged that altuve used buzzers, actually said that trout took steriods or PEDs
     
  10. MadMax

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    I don’t disagree with anything you just said.
     
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    Ultimately, if he resumes his career trajectory, has a long career, and puts up clear HOF numbers he will still get, although it will be an ugly mark. We're still likely 15-20 years away from a possible HOF vote, so that's a ton of time.

    If he has a clear slowdown moving forward, it will certainly be chalked up to cheating and will be held against him in a huge way.
     
  12. marks0223

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    "Occam's Razor" - The simplest answers tend to be the right answers. Behind door 1 you have what Harold Reynolds said. Behind door 2 you have buzzers. Something not found after a thorough investigation of interviews, reviews of thousands of emails/texts and the fact that MLB had personnel in the dugouts and replay rooms in the playoffs. This is a baseball team, not the CIA. There's no way there wouldn't be evidence of such an elaborate, technological scheme.
     
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    LOLOLOL They mad!
    Harold a big meanie poopoo head who condones cheating!

     
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    Wonder if any of the boys would accept an All-star invitation considering where the game is being held this year (LA)
     
  17. Nick

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    This isnt the pro bowl. They all go to the all star game.
     
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    How about the player they let go in a bad trade winning the HR Derby on their field? Yordan can give them a taste on what they missed out on.
     
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    I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone say Yordan was cheating last season.
     
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    More details please.
     
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