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Walker: not right personnel for small ball & not great from 3

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JW86, Feb 10, 2020.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    True, but defenisively we got worse - I will cheer like hell but I feel the team has gotten worse overall - and they won't even bother guarding Westbrook in the playoffs.

    DD
     
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    Wanted to give an update to this because I remembered you can actually search this easily on bballreference. There have been 448 games this season where a team has had a DRTG of 117 or worse. In those games the overall league record is 56-392, which is a 12.5% win percentage. Over the course of an entire NBA season, a 12.5% win rate comes out to a 10-72 season, if this helps you contextualize how bad that is.

    I hope this puts last nights performance into perspective for those who are saying "we need to hit more 3s" and "the problem is we need better shooters on the roster" as a reaction to that game. Our offense is great, the defense is what needs fixing.
     
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    how we in play for all the way up to the 1 seed lol. its not even allstar break.
     
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  4. mike2k132

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    no one arguing u dont have to play situational defense....ill repeat that situational defense. we dont have to be elite aint defense n frankly this team cant.

    n always cracks me up like everybody else aint jacking up more 3s then ever before. n like we wasnt get beat by a team with 4 maybe future h.o.f.

    like where the things thata other teams was doing to beat that...what have also 3 all stars to match talent....or having 2 of the top 3 players on gsw go down n get a easy ring. its like people rewrite history.
     
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    agree, if u have Thompson and curry 3 points specialist, u can play small ball. If harden and Gordon seems not shoot accurately now especially his step back
     
  6. Will

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    Keeping Capela would not have made our shooting any better. We would lose the same games. And instead of Russ not getting the rebounds, Clint would be the guy not getting the rebounds.

    Also, I'm kind of digging the "welfare reform" effect of losing the rim protector. I wish we had the rim protector, all things being equal (which they wouldn't be). But the absence of the rim protector seems to be motivating the perimeter defenders to work extra hard.

    And I like what the more open spacing has done to our offense. I like the better ball sharing. It's more creative and surprising, more fun to watch.

    Do I think we have a serious shot at winning a championship with this lineup, playing this way? No. But I don't think we had a serious shot playing the other way, either.
     
  7. BleedRocketsRed

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    Got outrebounded by the Jazz by 12 BUT put up 9 more shots than them (shots didn't go in).

    Forced 9 more turnovers than they did (mainly because we only had 5 turnovers as a team which is quite impressive).

    Defended that game winner as well as you possibly could (which is a big reason I'm not mad or discouraged). Felt like they held Gobert relatively in check too (he did randomly happen to hit his free throws).

    It really comes down to communication and effort. If they buy in, the defense will be good enough.

    It was a game (against a very good team) that they should have won.
     
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    Hartenstein could play he doesnt get played. Faried could play before he got benched for no reason and fell out with MDA.

    I'm sure MDA would love 10 allstar players on the team who doesn't? But a coach also has to work with what he has got if you don't see him maximizing the players you did get him whats the point of getting him more when they ain't gonna play?

    MDA had a lot of talent in PHX but nobody said he was great at managing rotations in fact he got hated there too due to overplaying his starters and having a short rotation. My criticisms of him arent something new he has been criticized by fans since his PHX days.



    Your assertion that he would play all the playable guys have no basis considering MDA's past history and behaviour that's like saying Popovich doesnt care about defense.
     
  9. roslolian

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    You are right but people are only human they can only make decisions based on info available to them and luck plays a huge part on results.

    Yes it is ironic Rox would be better off if Morey was a lazy bum who doesnt make any moves to help the team but you'd still rather have a GM who tries to win vs a GM scared to make moves cuz he might be fired.
     
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    Team would be better, if we had CP3 and WB
     
  11. J Sizzle

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    Don’t think luck has anything to do with it. Like 85%% of the moves they made the past two years were obviously misguided, and everybody on here and in the media knew it.
     
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    The odds of Bogdan Hitting that shot was 12.6% :(
     
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    You are always the most misinformed dude whenever it comes to Dantoni. Faried and Hartenstein are both TRASH at defense. Thats why Faried didnt play and thats probably why Harty doesnt play.

    Stop this crap.

    That talent was only utilized like that because of Mikes offensive systems. They could very easily have won 2 championships if Amare hadnt gotten hurt and if it wasnt for Robert Horry. Lol, youll just respond "A good coach would have won championships every year with that talent"....god what a load of crap.

    Such single minded crap. Its like Fchowd talks about Harden, you are that for Dantoni.
     
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    Antoine Walker of all people talking about perimeter defense and inefficient 3 point shooting makes me chuckle.
     
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    35-36% from 3 on the rockets is like 40 on another team. Our volume brings averages down. No one ever mentions that at all
     
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    You can say that in a vacuum, but in practice that doesn't hold up given you don't know what another team does to get a guy open, is he allowed to shoot the same shots, are they more or less contested etc.
     
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    Then is 36 percent in this system 39 percent in a normal system? If decent 3-point shooters become efficient in this system by volume, do efficient 3-point shooters become great? Do we want greatness or just to be effective? To win a championship, don't you want elite shooters?
     
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    17 we have ryno, cp3, ariza, prince and caplea. Now our shooters are not shoot well always keep. I prefer they do slam dunk rather than inaccurate 3. Sign back Faried slam dunk and grab rebounds better
     
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    No more Nick Wright from me after his blatant Houston bashing during his KC Chief Suckfest. Not even to catch a good guest. Fk NIck Wright. He's dead to me.
     
  20. roslolian

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    Offensive system is just one part of coaching you realize that right? That's why Tex Winter developed the triangle system but Phil Jackson was the actual coach who won a ring. If all it took was systems then why not hire Tex Winter himself as the head coach?

    Faried was the catalyst for the revival at the 2nd half of the season if he was so bad how come he won a ton of games for the squad? It's not like House and Maclemore are all NBA defensive stoppers out there gimme a break you telling me a 7 footer like Hartenstein hurts the team defense worse than Ben Mclemore playing PF? That makes as much sense as MDA saying he benched Hartenstein because he is too short to get the rebounds but then giving Tucker 40 mpg at center. You are the one who needs to stop this crap.

    You are right Phoenix could have easily won 2 or more championships especially the year they had the MVP and 4 max players on their team. But they didn't, and that's cuz they had Tex Winter when they needed a Phil Jackson. We are on the same boat coulda woulda shoulda every single year most likely including this year.

    And to be completely honest, I don't think GSW wins a ring with Dantoni even with the same cast. He wouldn't have trusted the bench that Kerr has and he would overplayed the Hamptons 5 from start to finish like what he is doing now on the Rockets. Curry, Draymond and Iggy would have been ground down to a nub due to getting overplayed chasing regular season records and they would have faded in the playoffs like what happened to Phoenix and the Rockets. All you really can say to defend MDA is always his system and while having a system is great, that's just one part of coaching and you can def argue is the least important part of coaching cuz guess what, you can always copy the system of other coaches. If you copy the system of Steve Kerr or Popovich how far removed would you be from MDA's system? Bud's system also takes a lot of 3s and has high pace it's not that different from what MDA is doing, except you know he also coaches on top of having a good system.

    Phoenix back then was almost as loaded as GSW in the Curry era, and San Antonio def had less talent than Cleveland's 2nd Lebron team. MDA couldn't even reach the Finals in 8 years, his history is not maximizing the talent on his team in the playoffs and just being a regular season coach. Sorry you are the one with the single minded crap, I always post the reasoning on my conclusions unlike you who just refute all claims with no evidence or by credit grabbing from everyone else to give glory to the coach.
     
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