1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

2 year old hit by foul ball at MMP

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by HTM, Jun 26, 2019.

  1. panamamyers

    panamamyers Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2000
    Messages:
    1,297
    Likes Received:
    1,136
    What a horrible outcome and a horrible decision to sit there that led to the outcome. Sad that it was such an easily avoidable event with just some common sense from the parents.
     
    raining threes likes this.
  2. Joe Joe

    Joe Joe Go Stros!
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Messages:
    23,903
    Likes Received:
    13,976
    Fixed.
     
    cheke64 likes this.
  3. vince

    vince Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2000
    Messages:
    3,250
    Likes Received:
    2,486
    Horrible what happened to this little girl. From reading, she will face debilitating consequences for likely the rest of her life. The article i read said these injuries are likely permanent ramification.... A very sad situation.

    I would not be so callous to admonish the girls family, because I’ve been to plenty of games where fans are lost in Lala land not paying attention to the action on the field. Unfortunately it’s human nature to get complacent.

    This was an unfortunate accident. And baseball is doing the right thing and installing nets to further protect fans. In today’s age, everyone and their brother is distracted by their phone, which is vastly different from previous baseball generations.
     
  4. panamamyers

    panamamyers Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2000
    Messages:
    1,297
    Likes Received:
    1,136
    I agree the netting should be there and having the netting there when my son was 2 would have been nice to open up those seats as a possibility. I crossed off any seats within 250 feet of home plate when searching for tickets back then.
     
  5. raining threes

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    12,660
    Likes Received:
    8,304
    ? SMDH

    A parent needs to either sit somewhere else or pay attention to keep this from happening to their baby.

    Common sense apparently ain't so common. Baseball has been played for 200 years and this has rarely happened. Why all of the sudden is it happening more regularly? Watch the damn game, especially if you have a child with you and take one for your child if you take the child to the game. Stay off of your phone during the game.
     
  6. juicystream

    juicystream Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    29,278
    Likes Received:
    5,391
    I'd sue for sure given what has happened. If MLB isn't covering every penny of the medical costs in some form or fashion (by team or league), then I think that is shameful because it is the least they could do.
     
  7. Nick

    Nick Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 1999
    Messages:
    48,055
    Likes Received:
    14,295
    The fact that MLB has extended netting is basically an admission that it was always unsafe.

    I can tell you a lot of things that were done for awhile in society that were thought to be ok... till they weren't.

    Likely also have to factor stadiums featuring seats closer to the action, some stadiums now being more intimate and having more volume of seats filled regularly (unlike the old cookie-cutter stadiums that had way too many seats due to football), faster hit velocity, etc.
     
    vince and REEKO_HTOWN like this.
  8. LongTimeFan

    LongTimeFan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2001
    Messages:
    7,757
    Likes Received:
    963
    People blaming parents for a freak accident at a baseball game: not a good look.
     
  9. asianballa23

    asianballa23 Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2003
    Messages:
    3,217
    Likes Received:
    625
    why's it dumb? I wouldn't call his post "advice"
     
  10. asianballa23

    asianballa23 Member

    Joined:
    May 24, 2003
    Messages:
    3,217
    Likes Received:
    625
    i'm sure somewhere on the game ticket mention watch the game at your own risk and the team and stadium is not liable for any injuries caused by a foul ball?
    I'd never and can't understand why anyone would bring a 2 yr old to a baseball game....
     
    raining threes likes this.
  11. Ariza4MVP

    Ariza4MVP Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2009
    Messages:
    766
    Likes Received:
    134
    Definitely. The netting is a no brainer. It's not like at little league fields with the annoying chain link fence that does obstruct your view.

    The netting is barely noticeable.
     
  12. AirPower

    AirPower Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2017
    Messages:
    98
    Likes Received:
    92
    Honestly, it doesn't matter why the guy brought the child.

    The Astros will pay the medical bills at the very least, I would be shocked if they didn't. I also wouldn't be surprised if they paid additional compensation due to loss of earning potential (ability to support family... if she can even have one when she grows up).

    I can't imagine an organization that sells a "family friendly environment" not stepping up to the plate when a child is permanently disabled at your event.

    It will be a PR disaster for the Astros organization if they don't pay up and as part of the deal make sure the family doesn't speak poorly of the organization.... that's just the cost of doing business.
     
    juicystream and BigM like this.
  13. rhino17

    rhino17 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2006
    Messages:
    17,821
    Likes Received:
    4,093
    Classic Bar Exam question
     
  14. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    46,809
    Likes Received:
    18,513
    It’s because those people aren’t parents.
     
  15. BigM

    BigM Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2001
    Messages:
    17,993
    Likes Received:
    13,168
    The Astros will help the family out because it’s the right thing to do.
     
    bloodwings19, King1 and H-Town Info like this.
  16. The Beard

    The Beard Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    10,342
    Likes Received:
    5,546
    yep, heck Doctors used to be used for cigarette commercials
     
    REEKO_HTOWN likes this.
  17. bloodwings19

    bloodwings19 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2006
    Messages:
    5,384
    Likes Received:
    3,912
    I hope so, but the lawyer talking to the media says otherwise. I believe the family wants a big number and the Astros are not providing it. The family asks for privacy at the time then we get this news about the 2 year old current situation. It tells me they wanted more than what is offered. This is the reason I never take any kids under elementary age to games. Not only the sound of the ball, but the decibel (noise) is not good for the ear.
     
  18. Redfish81

    Redfish81 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2016
    Messages:
    4,608
    Likes Received:
    6,410
    They have no legal obligation to pay. The legal precedent is very strong. They aren't going to offer up millions and millions of dollars when this would very likely be tossed via summary judgement. They will offer some help and hopefully the Cubs will chip in but this isn't going to be a huge score for the family when they literally can't win in court.
     
  19. Larry D Smith

    Larry D Smith Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2019
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    12
    I'm not so sure about that. Obviously, the defenses available to the Astros are assumption of the risk and waiver. Assumption of the risk is an affirmative defense that essentially says the plaintiff knew, or reasonably should have known, the inherent risk that a foul ball, or otherwise errant ball, might enter the seating area and cause physical injury to an entrant. By attending an activity that poses such an inherent risk, the spectator assumes the risk of injury. Likewise, waiver exists by virtue of posted notice that an entrant to the game waives his right to recovery of damages caused by the natural processes of the game.Those are affirmative defenses and would serve the basis for a motion for summary judgement.

    However, there is a flip side. The injured is a minor of tender age, and the law assumes an incapacity of such a person to knowingly waive any rights at law. Moreover, the defense of assumption of the risk might not be insulate the defendant from liability. Again the plaintiff, at age 2, is legally incapable of consenting to an assumption of risk. The defense would have to argue that the plaintiff's cause of action is against the parents who negligently allowed their child to attend the game, and if recovery is to occur from the incident it should come from them. The obvious problem with that approach is that if the suit were to survive a motion for summary judgment, and proceed to jury trial, the defense might be walking a tightrope because a jury would not be sympathetic towards any argument that the parents, and not the defendant, are responsible for the injuries sustained by the child.
     
    vince likes this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now