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The Chance of War with Iran

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mtbrays, May 15, 2019.

  1. mick fry

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    What? Why would you be concerned about a cultural site? I used an extreme example and you're still defending their cultural sites as if they are more important than innocent civilian American lives.
     
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    Yep.

    I actually think this is bad for Trump, I think most were getting tired of Impeachment talk.

    When it gets cranked up again it will be more impactful IMO.
     
  3. jiggyfly

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    Nope.

    Just wondering why you would attack a cultural site at all, what strategically would it accomplish?
     
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    Withdraws everybody there against isis against the wishes of every military general.

    digustingly leaves the Kurds for slaughter

    does this and asked to leave completely. This was not well thought out because ISIS just let our a cheer
     
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    This post makes no sense. Do you think bombing cultural sites makes innocent American civilians safer?

    If you do believe that, how? How on earth will that make American civilians safer?

    I could understand taking out Iranian military targets etc (whether I agree or not).

    To me, it isn't a matter of weighing the importance of protecting American Civilians' lives vs. protecting Cultural sites. To me, the two are completely unrelated with the possible exception that attacking cultural sites makes American civilians more of a target because our government acted as big giant assholes.
     
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    Bombing world heritage or similar sites that happen to be inside Iran isnt an attack on Iran. It is an attack on all mankind and our understanding of where we came from.
     
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  7. mick fry

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    So a terrorist attack on innocent Americans makes the Iranian government what? If they did do such a thing then you bomb military and cultural sites because they treasure those more than human life.
     
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    Bombing should be strategic and a matter of national security. It isn't simply a punitive measure unless that also helps national security.

    I am certainly in favor of actions that protect American civilians. Doing something to simply make somebody pay doesn't do that. It might feel good in some sort of unenlightened, most base, lowest common denominator way.

    But we should be above that and act in ways that strengthen our national security and work to prevent future terrorist attacks. There is room for debate about the best methods to do that.

    But attacking cultural sites isn't even related to our national security or protecting American civilians. It serves no purpose other than to make those who won't or can't delve into deeper levels of problem-solving feel better.

    Isn't the United States better than that? If we aren't, shouldn't we be better than that? Isn't that an easily achievable goal to set for our nation?
     
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    U dum
     
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    The liberals have continued their idiocy. In their minds, there are only two options:
    1) Do nothing / don't retaliate against Iran for killing our people and attacking our Embassy

    and

    2) Retaliate against Iran and spark WWIII and possibly blow up the entire Earth

    see the words of MLK in my sig...
     
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  11. mick fry

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    I would say bombing their cultural sites is much better than innocent Iranian citizens. So we’re still taking the higher moral ground.
     
  12. jo mama

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    you supported george w bush and the iraq war.
     
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    so you are contend to be a terrorist?
     
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    The higher moral ground and Trump have nothing in common.

    Destroying cultural sites puts you on Taliban level scumbaggery. It would shockingly be a new low for Trump.
     
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    this is the most pathetic chickenhawk b.s. that trump has pushed for yet. and it highlights once again one of the main problems with trumpism, which is that he continues to take us down to levels that we would have never thought possible before he came along. he is normalizing behaviors and actions that should never be acceptable. i guess we shouldnt be surprised anymore, but i still find it shocking and despicable that so many buy into and regurgitate his garbage.

    as someone already mentioned, those cultural sites belong to humanity. to blow them up is not just an act of war, but a crime against humanity. also, it serves absolutely no strategic purpose. and if you really care about keeping americans safe than this is one of the stupidest things you could possibly do. you would not only turn the entire world against us, but you would also unite the muslim world in seeking retribution. americans all over the world would be put at risk. the united states itself would be put at risk and it would absolutely increase the risk of domestic terrorism.

    ive been done with yall for awhile, but this is a new low, even by trump standards. those of you advocating for this are nothing more than pathetic children who think trump is some tough guy action hero. sad.
     
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    My apologies if this has been shared already.

    Donald Trump Jr shows off an ancient ‘symbol of war with Islam’ as his father puts America on the warpath with Iran

    RawStory.com
    January 6, 2020 David Badash, The New Civil Rights Movement

    As his father was doubling down on his threat to destroy Iranian religious and cultural sites Donald Trump Jr. was proudly posting photos of his assault rifle featuring a symbol of a Christian religious war against Islam reportedly now used by white supremacists, according to a Pulitzer prize winning journalist, and the Chair of a specialist group on political violence and terrorism. It also has the word “Crusader” emblazoned on it.

    The rifle also bears an image apparently of Hillary Clinton, the president’s former political opponent, behind bars.

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    Douglas Blackmon, a former Wall Street Journal senior national correspondent and bureau chief describes what’s now on Trump Jr.’s weapon as the Crusaders’ Cross.

    So on the day @realDonaldTrump is threatening to blow up the Middle East, his son posts pictures of himself with a weapon bearing the “crusaders cross,” symbol of war with Islam in the Middle Ages, and today used by White supremacists? https://t.co/LMAx45vFhp pic.twitter.com/hUyow9fkQ0

    — Douglas A. Blackmon (@douglasblackmon) January 6, 2020

    Let me just repeat that back: the son of @realDonaldTrump has posted images of himself with a weapon bearing a widely used symbol of white supremacist groups……
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    — Douglas A. Blackmon (@douglasblackmon) January 6, 2020

    ….which also happens to have been a major symbol of the medieval crusades/wars between Christian Europe and the Islam world….

    While @realDonaldTrump is threatening to bomb civilians in Iran and claiming the right to occupy Iraqi territory.#IsThereNoBottom to this?
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    — Douglas A. Blackmon (@douglasblackmon) January 6, 2020


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