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Random Houston Rocket Trade Ideas 2019-20

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Shark44, Jul 24, 2019.

  1. 13BeardsIN1

    13BeardsIN1 Member

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    I think the Captain Morey will wait until the buyout market. I would bet money on Marvin and MKG getting bought out. That doesn’t mean they’re coming here but Morey will try his best.

    I would also bet Nene and Hartenstein are getting traded to make room.
     
  2. Corrosion

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    Na …. it'll be Fertitta junior.
     
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  3. Corrosion

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    No , I don't see Rivers or McLemore going anywhere.



    Don't forget that GG has the right to veto any trade.

    No arguments from me on this. No salary , no assets …. aint happening.

    Thanks for nothing Tilman.
     
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    I believe Rivers has a no trade clause like GG.
     
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  5. Corrosion

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    I tend to believe its a mutually understanding between Rivers and Morey - I took less to be here.

    It would be a big F U to trade him.

    That would be a big turn off to future potential FA's.
     
  6. 13BeardsIN1

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    Yup, all we have is House, Nene, Isiah, Clark.
     
  7. ApacheWarrior

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    Gerald Green has a “one year bird rights” which means he has to ok trade.

    I don’t think GGreen will say no. Because with his injury he probably shouldn’t play for any team and the
    team he is traded to will lose him this summer as he becomes a free agent. So it probably
    doesn’t matter if it’s the worse location; They won’t have GGreen under their control by way of contract.

    So the team trading for Green expects him not to play and Green has an excuse not to play.

    If GGreen is traded at the trading deadline then he could rejoin Houston after a year (of being traded).....next Feb.

    This is why I believe GGreen will be traded with Nene around Jan 15th. GGreen could re-join Houston next season
    after Jan 15-ish. Well healed from Lisfranc fracture injury, hopefully.
     
  8. fattz

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    Green is a MDA player just like Eric Gordon is. Next year all three will be gone and the new coach will have a max big to mix with Harden / Westbrook in addition to some new low end role players that he prefers. Think Milk Hair and the Monopoly Man OR JVG and the shameless washed NYK players that filtered through. (Even Charles Oakley).
     
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  9. saleem

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    Yes, he does.
     
  10. ApacheWarrior

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    Perhaps.....Gerald Green is first and foremost Houston true-&-true.

    Next coach will give the ball to Harden or Westbrook and say get the h___ out of their way. Green can create
    space for Harden or Westbrook on a small contract. Gordon gets paid too much and probably is the odd man
    out this summer......especially if Clemons is doing what Gordon does.
     
  11. fattz

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    The roster is so limited because of financial issues. Our new coach will almost have to have his washed out player come because there not many draft choices coming in to fill out our roster.
     
  12. ApacheWarrior

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    If the Rockets win and do well in the WCF’s and/or NBA finals, D’Antoni will almost get to name his price. Coaches
    salary does not go against the salary cap/repeater tax.

    If the Rockets bring in another coach, he will be a puppet coach like Spoelstra was to LeBron/DWade in Miami or Blatt
    was to Irving/LeBron. Why? Because D’Antoni has been successful just handing the ball to Harden and so will the next
    coach. Green gets approx $2M this year and would get a prorated lesser amount in January next season. Gordon
    gets about $17M ($16.9M) next season which is high for a player whose role can be done by Clemons dirt cheap
    contract.

    Both Harden/Westbrook get $41M each next season. Money is of the essence. Capela $17M will be looked at closely.
    Tucker should be safe at $8M

    How they perform in the playoffs matters much.
     
  13. elmotsang

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    We should think about how to upgrade forward vs AD and Gianns. This year has high chances get into final and have chances to get the 1st seed fir full team in western conference. Raptors has Gasol , Ibaka and Sikam to beat Gianns.
     
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    I agree, Rockets need another 6'7 plus 3-D player as well as another long 4/5. Preferably with wingspans 7'0 or greater and can run with Russ.
     
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    I’m rooting for the Pistons to lose and be sellers. I think this trade puts the Rockets over the top.
    https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7259820

    Houston in:
    Markieff Morris: 11.1 pts...4.0 TRB...1.7 ast...41.1 3P%
    C Wood: 9.1 pts...4.9 TRB (15 mins a gm)...61.7 FG%.....42.9 3P%....23.7 PER......4.7 blk% (Capela 5.0 blk%)

    x

    Pistons in:
    Gary Clark (we have to lose a young player with some potential (either Clark/Hartenstein or Clemons)
    Nene (instead of Gerald Green)...they make same $....site earlier had Nene equal to about $10M in contract)
    Sefalosha: nice guy but like James Ennis last season, just doesn’t fit.
    + future picks

    These players are cheap contracts and thus give us the best chances of actually pulling it off. And they
    fill a need or needs.
     
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    I'd much rather trade Hartenstein or Clemons than Clark. Clark has been adequate as a small ball 5 and looked good backing up Tuck against the Suns. Ideally, I'd like to keep both Clark and Clemons.
     
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  18. ApacheWarrior

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    I’m a fan of Clark as well. Clemens contract is so small though.....if it works and the Pistons want Clemons then I go for
    it. It’s a getting forwards sending out forwards thing that I ran. You sometimes have to give up something to get something.

    As for Hartenstein, he stays active......I don’t trust Tyson to stay healthy. Wood at center is ok; he is a little thin.
    He is getting 15 minutes a game in 26 games this year; but did play 23 minutes a game last season (Wood).
     
  19. J.R.

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    https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/st...ade-free-agency-draft-intel-g-league-showcase

    NBA trade, free agency and draft intel from the G League Showcase

    What were NBA executives buzzing about at last week's G League Showcase?

    This annual event has become something of a staple on the league calendar, with NBA teams sending some of their top decision-makers to scout players and share information as trade season approaches. Remember, the 2020 NBA trade deadline is just six weeks away.

    ESPN's NBA insiders share trade, draft and free-agency info from the event, including the latest on Dion Waiters, Jrue Holiday, Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin, the (potentially) loaded 2021 free-agency class and more.

    The future of Dion Waiters

    Bobby Marks: There is no resolution in sight when it comes to the future of Dion Waiters with the Miami Heat.

    "The Waiters contract is as close to untradeable that I have ever seen in the NBA," one league executive told ESPN in Las Vegas.

    Waiters, who has yet to play in 2019-20 and is owed more than $12 million in 2020-21, has been fined three times this season for a total of $1.4 million.

    Of course, every contract can be moved in some kind of trade, but the expense required to move Waiters doesn't appear palatable. Miami is not attaching Kendrick Nunn, Bam Adebayo, Duncan Robinson or Tyler Herro to incentivize a deal. Even if the Heat were willing to include a draft pick as a sweetener, they aren't allowed to trade a first-rounder this season.

    The Heat also are not taking back salary that stretches into the summer of 2021, as that would affect their plans to chase star free agents. That diminishes the possibility of waiving and stretching Waiters' 2020-21 contract (converting his deal to $4.2 million in each of the next three seasons).

    Although every executive agreed that Waiters is untouchable when it comes to a trade, there was a split on whether he will be on the roster when the season ends. The Heat could waive him now and remove the headache, but he will be owed $20.5 million, and the team wouldn't receive any salary relief. The other option is to keep him on the roster but away from the team, hoping for a resolution this summer.

    One thing that every team agreed upon: Waiters' career is likely over, barring an incredibly unlikely turnaround. That is why Waiters' entertaining a buyout should be off the table. Even if he signed a contract next season, it would be for a minimum, non-guaranteed $2.6 million salary, making it difficult for him to recoup whatever he would give up in buyout talks.

    The summer of 2021

    NBA teams are a little concerned that what seems like a talent-rich free-agent class in 2021 might be overhyped. Here is why.

    LeBron James, Paul George and Kawhi Leonard -- the top three available players besides Giannis Antetokounmpo -- are all playing for their preferred teams in Los Angeles. With both the LA Clippers and Los Angeles Lakers built to win championships, it looks unlikely that we'll see any of those three change uniforms in 18 months. NBA chaos can break at any time, but planning to land one of those stars wouldn't be wise.

    Of course, if Antetokounmpo bypasses signing a $252 million supermax contract with Milwaukee in July, teams such as Miami and the Toronto Raptors will be waiting with a $37.5 million max slot. The Lakers do not project to have max money available -- assuming Anthony Davis returns on a max in 2020 -- unless James opts out of his $41 million contract and signs for $6 million less.

    If Antetokounmpo stays, a once-heralded class will feature Jrue Holiday, Spencer Dinwiddie, Gordon Hayward, Kelly Oubre Jr. and Rudy Gobert. There is also a group of players older than 35, including Kyle Lowry, Lou Williams, PJ Tucker and LaMarcus Aldridge. That's still a solid group, but it can't compare to the summer of 2019.

    We could list restricted free agents, such as Donovan Mitchell and Jayson Tatum, but it's unlikely that either player ever hits the market. If teams believe they can't find a difference-maker in 2021 free agency, that could influence their plans over the next six weeks leading up to the 2020 trade deadline. Future cap space could be less valuable, with contributors on long-term deals looking more appealing.

    More free-agency news and notes

    •Blake Griffin's contract and Andre Drummond's potential free agency create a level of uncertainty about the Detroit Pistons' future. After having left knee surgery in the offseason, Griffin has missed 13 games due to injuries while posting career lows in minutes, field goal percentage, rebounds and points per game. He is under contract through 2021-22, with annual cap hits of $34.4 million, $36.8 million and $39.0 million. Meanwhile, Drummond has a 2020-21 player option worth $29 million. It's important for the Pistons to figure out how both players fit into their long-term plans before the deadline passes.

    •We took a straw poll with league executives on two questions: Which player is likely to be moved by the deadline, and which player would you risk draft picks, expiring contracts and young players to chase?

    The Orlando Magic's Evan Fournier was the popular pick for most likely to be moved. Holding down the final playoff spot in the East, the Magic have shown no inclination to move the guard, but there will need to be a discussion within the next six weeks on what direction to take. Fournier is having a career season, averaging 20 PPG on 48.1% shooting from the field and 42.7% from 3. He has a $17.2 million player option for 2020-21 that many expect he will not pick up.

    Jrue Holiday was the unanimous pick for the player teams would risk their assets to acquire. The New Orleans Pelicans' standout guard is under contract through 2021-22 (player option) and would be eligible this summer to sign a long-term extension.

    •Although an extension is not likely, Jan. 7 marks the first date that Anthony Davis can sign a new contract with the Lakers. Because Davis waived his trade bonus when he moved from New Orleans, both sides had to wait six months to do a new deal. Davis will be eligible to sign a four-year, $146 million contract next month, or he can wait until July to ink a five-year, $202 million with L.A.

    Although Davis has been noncommittal about his future, the league-wide expectation is that Davis will be in a Lakers uniform for the foreseeable future. This Lakers roster is built to compete for titles, and the teams with 2020 cap space can't offer that immediately.

    •Teams are already looking ahead to March 1, the last day for a player to be bought out of his contract. Keep an eye on the following players if they are not moved by the trade deadline: Allen Crabbe, Evan Turner, Marvin Williams, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Andre Iguodala, Jeff Teague, Marcus Morris and Derrick Favors. Those nine players each earn more than $15 million, presenting challenges when it comes to salary matching in trades.
     
  20. jch1911

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    Where is the praying hands emoji? :po_O
     

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