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The Formal Impeachment Inquiry of Trump

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  1. Os Trigonum

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    I love that one

     
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    What’s dumb? No need to be sensitive or rude.
     
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    Watching the impeachment. Is it just me or does every republican speak like a hillbilly?
     
  5. Os Trigonum

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    Flashback Wednesday

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...impeach-trump-most-democrats-already-say-yes/


    Impeach Trump? Most Democrats already say ‘yes.’

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    Feb. 24, 2017 at 10:25 a.m. EST

    Donald Trump has been president for about a month. And already, a sizable majority of Democrats say he should be impeached.

    A new poll from the Public Religion Research Institute shows 58 percent of Democrats are onboard with the idea of impeaching Trump.

    That's not an unthinkable number in our polarized political climate, but it is extraordinarily early in a presidency for such a high level of support for impeachment. As PRRI notes, as late as 2014 — in the sixth year of Barack Obama's presidency — a similar proportion of Republicans supported impeachment: 56 percent. And even as the case for the Iraq War was being picked apart in 2006, Democratic support for impeaching George W. Bush was only at 48 percent — lower than it is today for Trump.

    Overall support for Trump's impeachment (27 percent) is still slightly lower than it was for Obama in 2014 (30 percent) and Bush in 2006 (30 percent). But the support for impeachment among Democrats appears to be what is keeping the overall number for Trump in the same ballpark.

    It's a testament to just how insatiable Democrats' appetite is for opposing Trump — something we've seen in other polling as well. A Pew poll this week showed 72 percent of Democrats were more worried their leaders would do too little to oppose Trump vs. 20 percent who were worried they would do too much.

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    And according to this new poll, the vast majority of that 72 percent doesn't think impeaching Trump — even at this early juncture — is going too far. That's not exactly a recipe for bipartisanship going forward.

    The grounds for impeaching Trump or any other president, it bears noting, are laid out in the Constitution, which says a president “shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

    Democratic Sen. Al Franken of Minnesota recently joked that such a situation was “months and months away,” since Republicans control Congress and would have to support impeachment. And that's a key point: Congress is always reluctant to move toward impeachment — especially since it can backfire, as it did late in Bill Clinton's presidency. But in the case of Trump, it's even more unlikely given Republicans control the House, which would initiate any impeachment proceedings if it got to that point.

    Some Democrats and ethics groups have sued alleging Trump is already in violation of the law — specifically, the emoluments clause, which prohibits a politician from accepting any “present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.” (The Post's Allison Michaels and David Fahrenthold have much more on this in this week's version of the “Can He Do That?” podcast.)

    And there already are very real grass-roots efforts to push for impeachment. A petition with 850,000 signatures on it was delivered to Congress last week. And Democratic leaders are trying to beat back the growing calls for impeachment from their base.

    Good luck with that.
     
  6. Ubiquitin

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    Just because we wanted Trump out doesn’t mean Trump is above the law. Trump did wrong by tying aid to a foreign investigation on his political opponent and he is getting impeached for it.

    And the Trump supporting GOP members sound like a bunch of QAnon and Jade Helm supporting CSPAN callers. It’s either Trump or Stalin to them.

    I miss Obama.
     
  7. B-Bob

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    Yes. ... the feelings of democrats are not on trial. The documented, admitted actions and blatant obstructions of the President will be.
     
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    Rudy's still out there getting dirt, err I mean evidence for the good of Trump's reelection, err I mean the country.
     
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    So?
     
  10. Astrodome

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    Sure, I think he is responsible for the events that followed his behavior. He should have smarter people advising him and should take their advice more often. I am not sold on him committing a crime with this ukraine hullabaloo. Many have admitted that this impeachment started with his election. He should have covered his ass better for sure. I guess I dont blame the dems for this as I am sure it has been a frustrating couple of years. But big picture, he has done what he said he was going to do while pissing a bunch of people off. The voters should decide his fate unless an impeachment gains bipartisan support. This one hasn't but i assume there will be more in the next few years. He needs to do better.
     
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  11. Ubiquitin

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    Why aren’t the GOP talking about the 65,853,514 voters whose voices were not heard?
     
  12. Ubiquitin

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    Why are the Republicans coming off as vitriolic while the Democrats are coming off as patriotic? One side is talking about the importance of the constitution and rule of law and the other is about how the swampy elites are socialists and Trump is the second coming of Christ himself.
     
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    Well said. Agree on voters deciding unless GOP members change any of their minds; the Senate configuration protects that outcome.

    I'd quibble on whether or not he's done what he said he would do. Mostly, it's really kind of true. But he did say he would promote infrastructure (in which case I think he could be coasting to re-election) and that he would be a uniter (gulp) and "so presidential" (um), but it's fair to rank which promises were more reasonable than others. :D I did honestly have hopes for the infrastructure part, b/c his advisor Bannon was so big on that.
     
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    Infrastructure! I don’t care who gets it done, but by God, I’ll get behind any candidate that actually addresses this.
     
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    It’s the People’s Mayor. I don’t understand why you guys don’t like him.
     
  17. KingCheetah

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    It's truly b@ffling he's such a great guy.
     
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  18. Ubiquitin

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    America's Mayor, but I'll let it slide.
     
  19. Invisible Fan

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    There were smarter people. They quit or got fired.

    This is the group he has wanted since the beginning. Barr got his back and doesn't respect institutions like the guy before him.

    He wears out Chief of Staffs like a real looking toupee toughing out the Florida heat.

    If anything it'll be an escalation of funny business with strategic maneuvering around safe judges or Senate rules.

    Maybe that's the change Americans need. Better hope for the best.
     
  20. Ubiquitin

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    The reason why the House has a Democratic majority is because this IS the will of the people.
     

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