Because it is. The TPA, Nafta and the Bailout helped a hell of a lot workers as well, it's very simplistic to claim otherwise.
Your initial question: "How will he get actual legislation through congress." - which assumes that he already won the presidency, That is the question I answered. Now, like a little weasel, you changed your question to: "How can he do that when he can't even get 20% of the democratic party to agree with him?" - This question is in reference to the democratic primary. Which is NOT what your original question was. And by the way, by this metric, according to a national reuters/ipsos released today, NOBODY would reach that threshold of 20%. You act like Bernie should be leading by 30+% points in the polls right now in order for him to start a movement of people. Obama at this point in the race was trailing Hillary and even after all that only narrowly defeated her in the 2008 nomination process. Yes, it's a primary with a lot of candidates, more options so everybody has less support since opinion is divided (and we're not even at Iowa yet). But Bernie also won 46% of the primary vote in 2016. Both things can be true. So yes, by most poll averages so far Biden is the only person with 20+% support nationally and if that does not change he will likely end up being the nominee. But still plenty of time between now and the first few primary states, a lot can change between now and then as we've seen in the past. Just vote for who you thinks represents your values/interests. Good Luck.
Little weasel? Ha! that's a new one. There is nothing weasely about pointing out the fact that if he can't rally his adopted party he would not be able to rally america. My point being if he could marshal this groundswell of support to flip the table over he would be doing much better, especially since he did so well in the last election. I don't have an issue with Berny per say I just don't see him being able to get anything done as president because he is so rigid in what he thinks should happen I like consensus builders or somebody that can sway people.
Well, his campaign strategy is to reach out to non-traditional voters and caucus-goers, generally, these people are hard to poll since they are not regular election participants. He consistently outperformed polls in the 2016 primary and I anticipate that will likely happen again, though it remains to be seen by how much exactly. The consensus between the two parties for the last 40 years has been to stick a middle finger to the middle class of this country and kiss corporate ass. I have no interest in that consensus and neither do most Americans. But maybe you like the taste of corporate ass, who knows. There has to be a significant change to our politics, Obama promised that was even given the mandate to do so, but ultimately failed to deliver for a myriad of reasons. And the one major consensus he did reach, Obamacare, despite having done some good left much to be desired. So, do I know Bernie will win? Of course not, long way to go and hopefully the fractured field consolidates somewhat. But, I know that I am behind the guy that chained himself to a black woman and man while protesting segregation. I know that I'm behind the campaign that has now received more than 4 million individual contributions, the most by any candidate in history (and we're not even at January yet).
Are you reading from the Berny Bros talking point list. What the hell do you know about what most Americans want? Sorry to break this to you but most Americans don't want Berny, as well as most democrats. So now because I have in any way questioned Berny as president I like kissing corporate ass. What the hell does that even mean? What does individual contributions got to do with anything how does fix what think ails america? Could you just be virtue signaling?
1. I never said I knew what most Americans want. However, Pew Research center does outline a very good guess as to what Americans want. Most people do not want cuts to Medicare/Medicaid/Social-security, 60% say it's the federal government's job to make sure everyone has healthcare, and 31% support a single-payer program. Most Americans favor raising corporate and high household incomes. 2/3 Americans support mar1juana legalization. List can go on and on, but there's plenty of evidence to indicate that the federal government by in large does not do what the popular American sentiment is. But, not everyone in America votes, in fact, most don't. 2. Most stratified macroeconomic indicators clearly point out that despite the rise in labor productivity over the last 30-40 years, wages have remained relatively stagnant for the bottom half of Americans in real dollars. At the same time, corporate profits have soared. Life expectancy has gone done, unheard of in modern western history. Meanwhile, education and healthcare costs have far outpaced inflation and 60% of Americans have less than $1,000 saved up and likely wouldn't survive a rainy day. However, during the same period the richest 1 percent of Americans have seen their wealth grow and the number of billionaires grew tenfold from 1987 to 2012. So you tell me who "the consensus" that you so admire has served. So I think Bernie's platform would go a long way in addressing these issues.
What does any of that have to do with anything we have been talking about? I agree wholeheartedly that we have a real issue with stagnant wages and the hollowing out of the middle class, I just don't think Berny is the best person to address it with his all or nothing approach. Yes we have real issues with income inequality but a lot of people are also very happy with there station and its not all of the mega rich.
Hm, I think we finally got somewhere. I think the people supporting Bernie are more desperate/frustrated with status quo than you are. When you say "we have issues...." they say "this situation is unacceptable and it must change drastically". So think of someone under a mountain of college debt, or a lot of medical debt. Think about someone who is concerned with the existential threat of climate change. Think of someone who works 2-3 jobs just to scrape by. Think of someone who pays thousands for healthcare insurance but never goes to the doctor because of the insane deductibles. Think of someone who is sick and tired of the constant wars (one of which was Afghanistan, which according to a WaPo article today both Obama and Bush administration lied to us about, not to mention Iraq). Think of the veteran that threatened to kill himself in front of Bernie. I think there are a lot more of those people than you realize. So look, it sounds like you're doing generally ok in life, and that's good. Just try to understand that there a lot of people in a more desperate frame of mind for a multitude of reasons. Couple that with widespread public frustration with our political system to produce meaningful change and you have a situation where an "all or nothing" like Bernie guy is fairly popular. Hope that at least allows you to see the perspective of Sanders supporters even if you disagree.
If there were a lot more people Berny would be doing better in the polls especially since he ran in 2016. I know a lot of people who have the debts you speak hell I have some of them, yes I m doing generally ok but so are most people. I believe global warming is a pressing issue and I think of all of these things some of them because they affect me personally, so stop trying to put me in a box I understand the frustration. Where are you getting the numbers for this widespread frustration? Why do you think there are a lot more of these people? Show me the numbers. I understand the perspective of Sanders voters I have most of that perspective myself, I just deal in reality and understand that with a all or nothing approach you get nothing.
Voting rate is positively correlated with income. Lower the income, lower the voting rate: https://econofact.org/voting-and-income Young people normally don't vote, but 2018 saw a nice little spike in turnout (a relatively high historic rate for this age group), which bodes well for 2020. Bernie won more young voters than Hillary and Trump combined in the 2016 primaries. In 2016, if "Nobody" counted as a vote then it would have won the election in a landslide So if you can turn out enough of these traditionally disengaged voters by even a handful of percentage points (we're talking like say 5% in a general election) you will dramatically alter the composition of the congress and the presidency. And ya, that is a BIG if, and there is no way for me to guarantee that. But we have to try. And though I went initially along with the whole "all or nothing" presumption you began with, I think Bernie stays strong on all in his positions in public in order to get as much as he can when the time to actually negotiate arrives. His veterans bill with McCain is a great example, he stated himself that he wasn't happy with the final product but he compromised. I think Bernie is a lot more practical than you give him credit for. Take for example his Medicare 4 All proposal, I think he will pressure and squeeze for as long as possible, but given all the special interests that will line up against him and how much public support he actually has I imagine that they will probably come out with something like 1) Lowering Medicare eligibility to 50ish years old and 2) A public option. But he's not going to publicly state that he is ok with that, otherwise everyone knows you're willing to fold to something lesser. You definitely don't run a campaign on that because a) it's not exciting/inspiring and b) because the opposition will demand concessions from your already compromised position. And so I think the next President will have to work to lower medicare eligibility age even more (and funny enough that's what the writers of Medicare always envisioned when it was passed in 1964). Lastly, there is also the reality that anyone who wants to make big change in this country will have to go up against the large corporations and wealthy campaign contributors.So yes, there very well may be some stagnation. There may be a lot of ugly battles for votes. There are going to be a lot of politicians who will be squeezed by their donors to avoid angering corporations and the wealthy. But that is what is going to have to happen if you want any real change.
Look at how much trouble Obama had getting a moderate liberal agenda passed during the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression. How’s that going to work with a real socialist? I too question how effective Bernie will actually be as President.
Lol stop posting that dudes videos, your giving away Dachuda, Bruce Andre and Mick Fry's key talking points before they can make them.
