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Another day another mass shooting

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  1. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Luckily, the new Santa Rosa one doesn't look to have multiple casualties at least. But it's the typical sterile suburban place where these often happen.
     
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    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Another Wally World.
     
  3. mr. 13 in 33

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    Update: Shooter is dead.
     
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    didn’t we learn anything about training Saudis to fly planes?
     
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    All these shootings and this administration has sat on there hands and done nothing.
     
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    If the Republicans won’t do anything after Trump inspired neo nazi shootings, there’s no way in hell they will do anything when a brown person from the Middle East shoots someone. If anything, they’ll act in the complete opposite and is it as excuse to send troops to Iraq again.

    “This is America
     
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    Why are we still training Saudi's how to fly, have we not learned yet?
     
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    A Saudi national committed terrorism on a military base in the Deep South.

    It is Islamic terrorism?
     
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    "Authorities confirmed the suspect was a member of the Royal Saudi Air Force who was on the base as part of a U.S. Navy training program designed to foster links with foreign allies. "
     
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    Where’s the outrage? Where’s the media coverage?




    It’s all worth 450 billion
     
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    Very tragic. Always sad when you put a real name/face/life/story to the “two people killed”
     
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    Terrorism is bad bad bad, except when it's not.

    For Trump, Instinct After Florida Killings Is Simple: Protect Saudis

    When a Saudi Air Force officer opened fire on his classmates at a naval base in Pensacola, Fla., on Friday, he killed three, wounded eight and exposed anew the strange dynamic between President Trump and the Saudi leadership: The president’s first instinct was to tamp down any suggestion that the Saudi government needed to be held to account.

    Hours later, Mr. Trump announced on Twitter that he had received a condolence call from King Salman of Saudi Arabia, who clearly sought to ensure that the episode did not further fracture their relationship. On Saturday, leaving the White House for a trip here for a Republican fund-raiser and a speech on Israeli-American relations, Mr. Trump told reporters that “they are devastated in Saudi Arabia,” noting that “the king will be involved in taking care of families and loved ones.” He never used the word “terrorism.”

    What was missing was any assurance that the Saudis would aid in the investigation, help identify the suspect’s motives, or answer the many questions about the vetting process for a coveted slot at one of the country’s premier schools for training allied officers. Or, more broadly, why the United States continues to train members of the Saudi military even as that same military faces credible accusations of repeated human rights abuses in Yemen, including the dropping of munitions that maximize civilian casualties.

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    But even stranger, said Mr. Riedel, was “the president’s parroting of the Saudi line” before learning the results of an investigation into whether the gunman acted alone, or had allegiances to Al Qaeda or terrorist groups.


    For the White House, the calculus is simple: Saudi Arabia is not only critical to world oil supplies — though no longer critical to the United States’ — it is the only regional power able to counter Iran. The result, former members of the Trump administration say, has been a dismissal of any critiques that could weaken that bond.

    Mr. Trump was so quick and so eager to assure the Saudis that the relationship would continue before anyone knew how to categorize the shooting that it raised questions about how the administration would have responded if the suspect had been an Iranian, or an immigrant from Mexico. During the 2016 presidential campaign, Mr. Trump often cited the killing of a young woman in California by an undocumented immigrant as a reason to crack down on immigration and build a wall along the southern border.

    “Had an attack been carried out by any country on his Muslim ban, his reaction would have been very different,” said Aaron David Miller, a longtime Middle East negotiator and now a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

    “But when it comes to Saudi, the default position is to defend,” he said, “Driven by oil, money, weapons sales, a good deal of Saudi feting and flattery, Trump has created a virtually impenetrable zone of immunity for Saudi Arabia.”

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    “If Trump wants to convey condolences from Saudi King Salman, fine,” Mr. Miller wrote on Twitter after the shooting. “But you don’t do it on day — Americans are killed — untethered from a message of ironclad assurances from King to provide” whatever cooperation is necessary to understand the gunman and his motives. “Otherwise Trump sounds like what he has become — a Saudi apologist.’’

    After Mr. Pompeo announced that he had spoken with the Saudi foreign minister, Faisal bin Farhan al-Saud, about the shooting, Martin Indyk, a former American ambassador to Israel and longtime Middle East negotiator, tweeted: “Isn’t it interesting how quick Trump and Pompeo are to broadcast Saudi government condolences for the murder of three Americans and how slow they were to criticize the Saudi government’s murder” of Mr. Khashoggi.
     
  17. mick fry

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    Lmfao, how did I know Trump would get the blame? Every freakin thread.
     
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    Which post blames Trump for the shooting?
     
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    Mick fry post
     
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    In txtonys world he protected the shooter therefore may as well had pulled the trigger. Here’s a tip try going one thread without mentioning Trump and see if people might take you seriously.
     

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