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Screaming A Smith And Max Kellerman Have Sth To Say About Harden

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by macan, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. T FOR 3!!!

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    "Wilt and Oscar were in a ball dominant era, and we're in that again now, so I'm not impressed by James Harden doing this"...

    You just named 2 of the greatest players of all-time... Were they not great even though they did it in a "ball-dominant era"!?? :rolleyes:
     
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    Oh yea rings mean everything. In that case Robert Horry is better than kawhi
     
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    so horry is better than curry and kawhi?
     
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    durvasa Contributing Member

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    No, but you are great to the extent your abilities translate to increasing your team’s chances of winning championships. Harden is a great player. But the doubts over whether he can be at the top of his game in the most important, high leverage moments of a playoff run are justified. People will have more respect and belief in his greatness if he proves himself in those moments more often than he has.
     
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  6. HoustonTexas

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    100% agreed. But that doesn't mean these people should brush off his historical performance's year after year.
     
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    Sounds more like he saw the headline is his feed.
     
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    Invisible Fan Contributing Member

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    SAS IS ON THE MARK

    SCREW U KILLERDOODOO
     
  9. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    Every basketball conversation on the internet:
    "Who do you think is better, player X, or Y?"
    "RIIIINGSS?!?!?!?!?!?!"

    I think basketball fans have an unusual fixation on championships when rating players because there are so many fewer players in basketball than hockey, football, baseball.

    You have 2-3 major impact players on a team by proportion, versus ~10 in hockey, ~10+ in football, and 10+ in baseball.

    Add the (related) fact that the following number of franchises have won championships since 1980:
    MLB: 22
    NHL: 19
    NFL: 18
    NBA: 12
    ... and the "but riiiiings!" argument gets even dumber when discussing great players.

    Steve Nash doesn't suck because the Spurs had a dynasty.
    Alex English doesn't suck because the Lakers-Celtics had dynasties.
    James Harden doesn't suck because the Warriors had a dynasty.

    By the same token, Jeremy Lin is not better than John Stockton, and Trevor Ariza is not better than Charles Barkley. It's a team award, not an individual one.

    It would be the same if we were analyzing Formula 1 and talked about the drivers for McLaren and Ferrari being so much better than Toleman or Spirit (who? exactly) without any inclusion of how much resources and money each team had.

    I gotta love a guy that carries an underdog team on his shoulders and still reps the city. Those are the true warriors.
     
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  10. Jwise44

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    I found out kellerman lives right next to me in TriBeCa. I cannot wait to run into him and ask him why he hates the rockets so much
     
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    I'm stopped listening to Max when he had Harden outside the top 5 players a year back.
     
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    translation: Scott Foster is greater than Harden
    Buddy, other than the players in the striped shirts, harden is the greatest as per increasing his teams chances of winning the chip. Him winning not coinciding with the best financial interest of adam silver should not block your and anyone elses mind's ability to use logic and sound reasoning to estimate to what extent hardens abilities translate to increasing his team’s chances of winning championships
     
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    This Kellerman idiot seems to think that the discussion is about baseball. "Juiced balls." He should go in search of his own.
     
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    Its alot of Jealous people when it comes to Harden especially T-Mac. If we had Harden instead of Mcdummy we would have one every year. Battier, Artest, Skip to my lou ,Yao, Scola
     
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    Watched the vid.

    Kellerman states that in this era of ball-dominant players, Harden is basically par for the course...but then he states that Westbrook's triple-double production stands out more than the offensive barrage by Harden. What the heck? These two things are not mutually exclusive.

    Apparently, it's harder to average a triple-double moreso than it is to average 35+ a game on pretty efficient nights? Both are hard, and both are great. Kellerman is so full of it.
     
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  16. rockets1995

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    Robert Horry has more Rings and more of a Clutch Shooter than Michael Jordan.

    I did not lie. It is Facts.
     
  17. rockets1995

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    Tell him he is a sellout to Nike and ESPN. Everyone laughs at how dumb you are, and you are failed rapper that cant dribble a basketball.
     
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    goes beyond just the sports media...

    ;) lol
     

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