Nick Wright Believe Harden Is a Better Player Than Kawhi

Im sorry this is wrong. We are talking about a player who got added to a team who already went to the ECF. Hardens teams wouldnt even make it to the playoffs without him. This playoff thing was always an unfair comparison. Give Harden Duncan Ginobli Popp and Parker when they were still good and he'd have a finals MVP too.

 

Are people simply going to forget that there were games in the Finals where Kawhi struggled in against a much more depleted Warriors team?

Kawhi got plenty of help from Lowry, Van Vleet, and Siakam in the finals.

CP3, OTOH, showed up for one game of the Warrior series.

Also, it must be nice to stay fresh for playoffs when you are coasting through the regular season via load management,

If Harden manages his load, Rockets wont even make the playoffs.

 

Kawhi was great and made a crazy buzzer beater game 7 vs Philly to go to the ECF.

but Kawhi has been surrounded by much better talent his entire career compared to harden in Houston.

paskal siakam is a true Allstar player avg 25 a game. Lowry is still a borderline allstar. Vanvleet is a better guard of the bench then Eric Gordon imo but it’s close but I think u get my point.

not to mention ibaka and Gasol as the bigs.

I’m sure if janes had some talent like that around him his playoffs performance would be better also. Talent wins in the nba always has and always will.

Cp3 first year was the only time harden had a true start next to him and he came the closet any team did against a healthy Durant led GSW.

plus look at Kawhi numbers now that he’s the man and having to playmake and play different? Hes shooting 43% and 30% from three he’s not this all world shooter scorer like the media has portrayed him because of one really good ECF and finals run.

he’s get mad props for winning a Championship when he had a good dealt hand with KD and klay out.

but harden is completely overlooked as always.

Harden Lebron and Giannis our the 3 best players in the game hands down they control everything and win 50+ games and are always in contention.

nobody else is doing that

 

Y'all guys know who that guy with the huge forehead talking sh*t about Harden is, right?

It's Vincent Goodwill, the Harden hater that started the James-CP drama in the off-season.

 

Kawhi has been very fortunate with the circumstances he has been dealt. Period.

 

the other guy is straight hater and should be banned from all media outlets and twitter.

he literally tweeted last playoffs he hoped james Harden would get injured.

that’s so unprofessional I can’t believe he’s still employed anywhere.

You don’t like his game that’s fine say that but wishing injury, that’s low grade BS.

 

No doubt, Spurs and Raptors were fortunate to have him.

 

What people dont get, is that the regular season matters ALOT more than I think people realize. Harden GETS BETTER every year. No one can play him straight up anymore. GS is proof of that, they have plenty of good one v one defenders. Still averaged 35ppg on 60 TS% in the playoffs.

No one will ever play him straight up in the playoffs, they will all run a zone scheme or they will force him right. Look at what Utah did last year. And theyll do it again to. Same with the Bucks. They KNOW they cant guard him straight up, post season or regular season, doesnt matter.

 

Thats because they were using that forcing him right scheme and he wasnt getting any fouls, it shook him up for sure. But once he figures out that defensive scheme. Its curtains. You''ll see the Jazz employ this next time, and then you'll see Bucks do it agian. Once we figure it out, its curtains, no one can guard him anymore.

 

There is something that lacks in your analysis and skews your opinion causing you to value others more than harden based on circumstances and not inherent properties of their game.

Kawhi (as well as lebron, steph and durant) have always ALWAYS had better
1 teammates (couple of allstars and opportunity to coast through RS)
2 better coaches
3 cakewalk schedule....kawhi last year and lebron coasting to finals through the east for a decade
4 better home court (TC crowd is beyond pathetic and gsw homecourt was the best)
5 better officiating than Harden(2018 wcf, 2019 wc semis game 1 rigg job)

Just because he plays on the better team or against weaker or injured opponents or doesnt have to carry a load in RS, or is given a foul when fouled(unlike harden) doesn't mean hes more proven in the playoffs

Just because kawhi(or steph or durant) has rings and is allowed to win by adam silver because it coincides with financial interests of NBA doesnt mean he is better or more proven in playoffs

harden is better than kawhi and harden is better than lebron(goat of the Leastern conference), steph and durant
and its NOT EVEN CLOSE

all the accolades they earned are not inherent properties of their play but of circumstances, which is best proven by the fact that when such players are removed from their circumstances(teammates, etc) they arent able to achieve the same results and accolades they were previously able to get.

 

Is it just me or does Vincent Goodwill have a very punchable face?

 

Its too early to tell ,we can talk about this at the end of the season when we see who wins in the playoffs.

 

Yeah this newish fad that regular season doesn’t matter just doesn’t sit well with me.

Regular season is where 90+% of the minutes of most players careers are played. MVPs matter, winning games matters, the accumulation of statistical numbers that players are judged and compared to each other upon are almost all in the regular season and they matter a lot.

The goal is to win it all, but lately it’s gotten to the point where people talk as if the postseason should count for like 95% of how we judge a player. I don’t even think it should be half and half.

 

This. Kawhi has always had the better teams around him. Harden took a team of scrubs and dragged them along to the western conference finals years ago and if Dwight hadn't gotten hurt they would have beat GS and won the chip afterward. The Beard has always carried this team on his back and even though I was hoping CP would help him he failed. Will Westbrick do it for him this year is what we need to talk about as I doubt it but am gonna stay on the wall for now and hope he does. Personally I am hoping Morey trades Westbrook for an actual great player that will help the Beard win it all as if any team concentrates on Harden in the playoffs with this team we will not win the chip.

 

Who do you guys feel—through their careers thus far—has been surrounded by better/more talented teammates?

Edit: As the main option, I should say.

 

Kawhi is a basic b****. Good fundamentals and steady but nothing amazing. Harden is not from this world.

 

Fool said the Spurs won 67 games in '17. Maybe he was including postseason.

Then he neglects to mention Kawhi was already hurt before Zaza cheap-shotted him.

Grown man being delusional with reality due to emotion and biasedness.

 

That's child abuse!