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[Breaking] Whistleblower outed as partisan hack; fired from NSC for leaking

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Oct 30, 2019.

  1. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Contributing Member
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    This is how a con man / cult leader works. He convinces you that his enemies are your enemies and that by protecting him you are protecting yourself.
    Trump even says this himself in his rallies. He always says "us" when he means "me"..
     
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  2. fchowd0311

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    No, it's a fact by now.

    1. We know when GOP legislators were shocked and perplexed why the aid was being frozen

    2. We have text transcripts of WH administration officials worried about obvious gross abuse of power

    3. We have testimony ranging from Trump sycophants in the administration to career servicemen corroborating the claims stating that the aid was only going to be unfrozen if Zielinski publicly stared that Biden's son and Burisma were under investigation.

    4. We know Trump sent a private tv lawyer to collaborate with the Ukrainian administration to execute said exchange.
     
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  3. ROXTXIA

    ROXTXIA Contributing Member

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    Might want to fix that "corroborating" (I'm guessing).

    Btw, you know texxxxxxx is immune to reason. He's been sipping that Kool Aid a long time now.
     
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  4. T_Man

    T_Man Contributing Member

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    SIPPING!!!!!

    Hell Tex made the freaking Kool Aid, he's the keeper of the recipe...

    T_Man
     
  5. NewRoxFan

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    Funny how corrupt, er, how much people have changed due to trump...

     
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  6. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Contributing Member

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    There is simply no rationale for your strategy here other than simply serving Trump as an ideology. The whistleblower obsession is case in point. The need to out him does nothing and does not affect you personally. The only impact is the need for Trumps personal emotional vindication. You serve Trump on a cult like level and leave aside your personal drivers.

    And it’s not a narrative I want to be true. Why in world would I want people like you to serve the emotional needs of your cleric above your own interests?? How does that help?? It’s a problem actually that I wish didn’t exist and people like you would think that rational human beings that aren’t in a cult.

    Your response makes no sense and just points to the dissolution where you feel like you must fight for Trump against the evil liberals and the deep state. Its pure insanity.
     
  7. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Contributing Member

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    I want what’s best for the country. The liberals have been looking for a gotcha since trump was elected. First the ridiculous Russian collusion witch hunt, which yielded nothing. Now a former Biden colleague, partisan hack, and known leaker submits a whistleblower complaint based on no facts. Ukraine didn’t even know the aid was “withheld” until well after the call, Ukraine said there was no pressure, and the transcript from the call does not show pressure.

    The liberals should be focused on infrastructure and helping Americans. Instead they are wasting time on another wild goose chase. Liberals don’t care. They just want to reverse the 2016 election because they lost and havent gotten over it.
     
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  8. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Contributing Member

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    If you cannot understand how it’s important to protect from a sitting President or a candidate for the president enlisting foreign helps to get elected than I don’t really know what to say.

    The Dems have 300!! Bills passed out of the house sitting on McConnells desk. The Republicans in the Senate dont even care to send back a modified bill for the House to vote on.

    So don’t even start with your bad faith argument about how the Dems aren’t governing. That’s just simply not true.

    The fact is your argument is full of lies and is not in good faith. You are fully opposing a process to protect from future Presidents (Dems included!) who will not be tempted to follow in Trumps foot steps to outsource election help. You simply do not care because I know that you are hoping that the balance of power will shift in the Trump era to move to autocracy with lasting minority rule on the Right for generations.

    If you did not believe that then you would be paranoid as hell at the though of Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders soliciting help from China or Iran to rig the elections here in their favor or in the favor of future liberals.
     
  9. AleksandarN

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    Facts? Are you trying to be funny?
     
  10. bigtexxx

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    I would note you didn’t refute my points.
     
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    Now I think you must be trolling on purpose. Your own ambassador to the EU said other wise. You know the same ambassador that was appointed by trump and a huge donor to his campaign.
     
  12. fchowd0311

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    More specifically he donated 1 million dollars to Trump's inaugural committee and denied that Ukraine knew about the aid...

    Untill he was pressed to answer the question under oath.
     
  13. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Ya think, after all these years of trolling on purpose?
    It's kind of like asking if a goombah fake businessman who peddles fake steaks, fake university, a fake tan, and a fake reality show might just make **** up on the daily as a politician. LOL.

    @rocketsjudoka, for my money, has the best point in all this. Trump is super clever in telling people his interests are their interests. He often conflates criticism of him with criticism of the GOP. No, just criticism of you, dude. And attacks on him he will relay as attacks on America. Nope, just attacks against your obvious flaws and misdeeds.

    Very clever but as much as possible, even his fans should keep an eye on that. It's definitely the work of a cult leader, very sad to say.

    At least Koresh was mildly attractive and wrote songs. But I'll never understand the appeal of the denture-wearing blobby in chief.
     
  14. Dubious

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    Do you think this illegal vindictiveness will stop the impeachment investigation? slow it down?
    nah brah, there will be a headline about it everyday for the next year, and probably more high crimes and misdemeanors will be exposed. And the more cornered the sociopath is, the more he will demand from his sycophants until it's obvious the GOP cares nothing about the Rule Of Law, facts or fairness. They are going to be vilified by History (you know the record written by journalist).

    What would obviously be "best for the country" is for Trump to resign. No National business will be taken care of while this is on the front burner (Mitch doesn't allow any now!) But of course he won't, he'll drag us all down with his classless ego.
     
  15. dobro1229

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    Your bad faith argument attempt full of lies does not deserve a blow by blow repudiation.

    Trump himself has confirmed everything in the whistleblower report. Rudy Giuliani has confirmed it. The WH COS had admitted it and said “get over it”. There are over 1000 hours of testimony all confirming it.

    Your nonsense doesn’t deserve thorough debate.
     
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  16. larsv8

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    At this point the Whistleblower could be a drug addicted, neo nazi jihaddist who is a pedophile, and it would make no difference. He / She is irrelevant.
     
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    The transcript is already Trump admitting to an impeachable offense. It's over.

    Republicans will not remove him from office, and voters will have their say. Bigotexxx will then run away
     
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  19. Rileydog

    Rileydog Contributing Member

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    Is it illegal for a sitting president to ask a foreign government to investigate a political rival?

    This is not a hard question.
     
  20. Buck Turgidson

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    I also didn't shave your mullet or feed you tapioca pudding.

    Add that to the list of things that people laugh at you about.
     
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