Good then pass it on to the House as required by law. The DOJ is not trustworthy with Comrade Barr running it. DD
The impeachment Inquiry starts and stops with the whistleblower complaint. The phone transcripts are tangential to that. I see the partisan talking point emerging ... but .. but ... the transcripts. Maybe AG Barr can hold a press conference, a week before the complaint makes it to Congress, stating that there is no there there.
In normal times obviously Barr would be DOA. Like,he's not just being unethical or violating norms, he's being implicated in downright criminal conduct for which he's not going to be able to claim qualified immunity. If he had an ounce of dignity or respect for the DOJ he would have resigned infinity scandals ago. Obviously he doesn't - but it's going to get to the point where the DOJ rank and file are going to openly revolt on him and just start openly defying him. It seems like it's a possibliity at some point that Barr gets offered up to the wolves (and replaced by another hack, obviously) as a way to defuse this. Rudy meanwhile - lol, I don't even know what to say about that idiot.
Romney says after the transcript that it remains deeply troubling and actually gets applause for saying it. Maybe the GOP has one patriot.
I think the big mistake Trump made here that will lead to his downfall is the quick comfort he had in being emboldened by Barr who he perceived to be his king maker get out of jail free card. His Roy Cohn. Barr has also obviously become emboldened by the fact that he got away with his role in Iran Contra, and later his role in covering up the Mueller report. He got away with two major cover ups, and his over confidence looks like it will obviously be his downfall. They got over confident, and sloppy.... well at least Trump has always been overconfident & sloppy but this time certainly feels different, and like something they cannot recover from or manipulate the media with BS propaganda narratives that confuse the public.
Well, it’s just so CLEAR and simple compared to those other cases. That’s what they underestimated. Twitter and the public can easily understand one phonecall and one inappropriate request of a foreign government. And dancing around that, spinning that as okay, is also pretty blatant. Barr is done for. Clearly will be sacrificed.
Romney is a senator from a state that voted 21% for Evan McMullin because they detest Trump so much. He has also been personally insulted and humiliated by Trump over the years, so what incentive does he have to carry water for him? Ted Cruz is another example. He ran on the slogan "Tough as Texas" in 2016, but has nuzzled up to Trump despite telling people to "vote their conscience" at the convention and undergoing constant personal humiliation from Trump. He's also not up for reelection until 2022. He knows Trump is unfit for this office, probably dislikes him personally and understands that the GOP could get the same policy outcomes with a President Pence without any of these headaches. Asking them to vote for what they know to be the right thing shouldn't be this hard.
Common sense and morals hasn’t won out with republicans what makes you think it will happen now all of a sudden.
It will all be about the perception of the electorate, if they see a big sway in voters opinions - they will follow...... DD
Oh, no doubt, you are right. Romney has nothing to lose here, or Cruz, and a few other safe GOP senators...but the public reaction to him and others is what is important. The GOP has to be convinced that they can survive without Trump, that they can safely get rid of him and move forward, and GOP senators like Romney and Cruz can lead the way on this and if everytime they go after Trump it goes well for them, then they will keep doing it, maybe others will join, enough to impeach? I don't know, but enough for others in the GOP to understand they don't have to tie themselves to Trump? This is their chance to get from under his rule, it's early now, so I don't expect anything major, but if more evidence comes out, the whistleblower transcript, the possibility that money was pulled from Ukraine before this conversation as well...this is going to be a long ride and I think Romney's stance on this is noteworthy. It'll be interesting to see if the previous never trumpers find their spine through this, looks like so far Romney has found his.
Hopefully Romney would run if Trump gets impeached. By not aligning himself with Trump the Dems could not attack him for it, and it would give those who don't want to vote for a far left progressive candidate an option.
Once this gets started in The House, Democrats control the agenda. A good prosecutor maps out all the testimony before hand and anticipates rebuttal. What will be interesting and different from a 'trial' is that it is subject to parliamentary procedure, which I am not knowledgeable on. Also, the public perception will depend largely on the personalities of the inquisitors. A point severely lacking from the cast of 1974. (not 1 but 2 "voices of God") A short rehash: https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/investigations/Watergate.htm
God, Trump got yall running around all excited and in a tizzy.... this is hilarious. You do realize there isn't anything impeachable yet right? This is more than likely going to fail. I know yall think he is so bad he should be impeached, but you have to actually have some evidence and right now you don't actually know anything.
Trump already admitted that he asked Ukraine to look into Biden...before this transcript...this is illegal. Period.
