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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AleksandarN, Sep 10, 2019.

  1. AleksandarN

    AleksandarN Member

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    Trump skeptical of using foreign spies to collect intel on hostile countries, sources say

    https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/09/10/po...s-skeptical/index.html?r=https://www.cnn.com/

    Who needs intel on hostile countries.
     
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    Best case scenario for Trump: It's hard to figure if this is his general stupidity/mental decline or his absolute treachery and betrayal of his country that is the real issue.

    Do your job, Nancy.
     
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    Hopefully, his skepticism is only what he says out loud to gain foreign leaders' trust, and he really is still using spies. Should work so long as they don't get caught.
     
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    Maybe he figures he doesn’t need his own sources when he can use Putin’s.
     
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    I'll just have to keep saying it WORST president ever.
     
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    LOL I thought this guy was a known liar

    other countries don't have to resort to that "I don't trust foreign spies" to earn the trust of other leaders
     
  8. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Why would you need spies when you have Fox News?
     
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    This is not an isolated incident of him just "being an idiot". This is the President undermining our national security. Repeatedly.
     
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    Have heard or read of the type of attrocities committed by US troops during the Vietnam war? Then Pres. Bush Senior bombed a caravan of new born Iraqi babies escaping the country during the Gulf War. George W commit substantial carnage in Iraq and Afghanistan as well. And, unfortunately, Obama probably has way more blood on his hands than Trump with his approved campaigns... Trump is awful for the heightened social tension within America but isn't as evil, as of yet, when it comes to matters abroad.
     
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    No. Statistically, there is a higher rate of civilian collateral damage under his administration.

    Also:. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/06/us/politics/trump-civilian-casualties-rule-revoked.html
     
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    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    Ref to Iraq? Did we even have spies there? Plus, our intel didn’t lie - their voice wasn’t heard. Some of them got their secret identity revealed illegal apparently because they were trying to be heard. The “lie” was selective (wrong) intel being used by the Bush admin. The Iraq war “bad intel” wasn’t a problem with spying, but a problem with bad judgement, lack of listening to other voices, lack of transparency, and having a “motivated” inexperienced and (tbd honest not very smart) president.

    Everyone also knows there is no such thing as every intel is 100% accurate. You need smart experienced people to make good judgement on those intel. And you need a president that has good judgement, is willing to listen to their own intel instead of others (like Russia), is willing to listen to multiple voices within the government and public sector, is transparent, and is smart and self aware enough to understand one own limits.
     
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    America wasn't tricked into going into Iraq because of bad foreign intel. What kind of revisionist crap are you trying to pull?
     
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    a caravan of new born babies?

    Hyperbole?
     
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    Apparently, you aren't familiar with the Iraqi custom of gathering all newborn babies and starting a cross country caravan.
     
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    Most evil isn't the same thing as worst.
     
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    Evidently.
     
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    Nah those POTUS's didn't do what he has to the country since 43 America hasn't been hated like this and he just doesn't care about America.
     
  20. Sanctity

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    No hyperbole but very real. He okayed missile drops on anything that moved including Iraqi and Kuwaiti new borns evacuating hospitals and trying to get out of the warzone.
     

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