The official don't re-sign Clowney thread

Of course they aren't.

Texans going to give away a great player for spare parts because the coach sucks.

 

First actually rumor. #Jets have had discussions with the #Texans for Jadeveon Clowney, per @JohnClaytonNFL who said it on his radio show.

— LoyalNYJetFans (@loyalnyjetfans) August 27, 2019

Dolphins are not willing to include offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil in a prospective trade scenario involving Jadeveon Clowney, according to league sources. Texans need help at running back in addition to offensive tackle

— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) August 27, 2019

 

We're gonna get some versatile players, players working hard getting better every day, excited to coach them John.

 

Yes, he has had his failures... But Clowney was never getting the contract he wanted from the Texans. He was gone from the jump.

They chose Tytus, got back comp for Clowney and can now allocate those funds to extending our franchise QB in Watson. The O-Line wasn't getting fixed in one year but they've, for all intensive purposes, gotten marginaly better. There's also no guarantee that Dillard turns how to be great. Give it time.

 

Watch the Texans end up trading Clowney for a 3rd round pick to replace the one they lost for Duke Johnson. Would essentially be 3rd down back Duke Johnson for Pro Bowl Clowney.

 

Twitter is going to melt in the Houston area.

— patrick (@PatDStat) August 27, 2019


it's awful

— TexansCap (@TexansCap) August 27, 2019


not today

— TexansCap (@TexansCap) August 27, 2019



Jadeveon Clowney's decision to make an agent change was not done lightly, per sources, and has been contemplated for a while.

— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) August 27, 2019

 

Yeah, that would be upsetting. I wouldn't be mad with a 2nd and a solid role player. Could be a weapon for Watson or that O-Line help.

 

were going to get fleeced

 

Again, they trade him for a WR or Miami's scraps, Bob should be fired on the spot. No ifs, ands or buts about it.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article234438702.html

The Miami Dolphins have re-engaged with the Houston Texans to explore the possibility of making a trade that would bring Jadeveon Clowney to Miami, and consider themselves the leader in the sweepstakes to land the pass rusher.

The Dolphins recently visited with Clowney, who met multiple persons within the organization as part of a recruiting effort of sorts to get the player to accept a trade to Miami. Part of this effort included a meeting with coach Brian Flores.

This is a stunning departure in what has become an ongoing negotiation between the Dolphins and Texans because two weeks ago the Dolphins had decided to back out of the Clowney sweepstakes altogether based on the Houston asking price that included at least one first-round pick.

The Dolphins at the time balked because they are expecting to use their first-round pick next year and possibly the next couple of years (in a package) to draft a quarterback.

But multiple sources say the two teams now have a more clear idea what a potential trade would look like and it does not include a first-rounder next year going from the Dolphins to Houston. This makes the deal more palatable for the Dolphins.

It remains unclear what exactly the Dolphins would offer, or more importantly, give for Clowney because such a trade can be basically a two-year rental if the team cannot get the player to sign a long-term contract.

Multiple Miami players have been mentioned in trade rumors the past couple of days including wide receiver Kenny Stills and linebacker Kiko Alonso. Such a deal could also include later and conditional draft choice considerations.

Despite this, no trade is certain.

No deal can be consummated before Clowney signs his one-year, $16 million franchise tag, which he has yet to do. The Dolphins would presumably want the former No. 1 pick here long-term, but cannot sign him to an extension until after the season.

Complicating matters: Clowney has parted ways with his agent Bus Cook and does not currently have representation. He presumably will want one in place before he gives up his leverage and signs his tender.

Despite all this, the Dolphins are clearly at the head of the pack of teams trying to land Clowney because they believe their meeting with him went very well and so far they are the only one team that has met with him.

Part of that meeting included the Dolphins laying out their vision for what they hope to be in the future. Clowney apparently came into the meeting with apprehension of what the Dolphins are likely to be short-term, in 2019, with a roster that lacks an obvious star quarterback.

The Dolphins are currently at least $26 million under the salary cap and that makes them well qualified to take on the full weight of Clowney’s franchise tag which they would have to take on in a trade.

 

How about a 1st round pick and no assets for this year? Can we still choose that one? Can we please not do anything that relies on Bill O'Brien making a judgment about player evaluations or scouting for this year?

It just keeps feeling like, if and when BOB leaves, he's taking the team's entire future draft capital with him on the way out.

 

You have got to be ****ing kidding me.

 

No deal unless we get a first from Miami or Tunsil. FOH!

A first rounder or bust

 

I would send Clowney and a second for Tunsil or Dillard.

You lock up Deshaun’s blind side for his career.

 

I DO!

 

smdh.

 

O'Brien will waive Stills before the bye week.

 

#SaveThePanda #FireDevlin

 

What about Kenyan Drake and a 2nd for Clowney?

 

But if both sides were cool with the situation, Clowney would've been at OTAs, camp, preseason games, etc...

So something is missing in our understanding of the situation.

Contender or not a contender doesn't seem like it should be that big of a deal in the NFL. At least compared to the NBA or MLB. How many times have we seen a team go from dog-crap to contender? I mean the Chiefs and Browns were laughing stocks not too long ago, then they get their one or two guys, and now look at them. If the team systemically is a dumpster fire---meddling or cheap ownership, staph factory, what have you---then I can see not wanting any part of that, no matter the quality of life in the area or how much money they'll give. Is Miami thought to be one of those teams?