[OFFICIAL] Thoughts & Prayers, May 31 2019 Edition

They also don’t have 300 million guns in their country, like we do. It’s not nearly as simple as you think. There is zero chance a confiscation of all guns will ever work.

Your argument needs help.

 

You and your party's motto of 'Thoughts and Prayers' have really helped out.

You should also do a bit of research about Australia's history with gun laws.

 

We’re broken. I wish there were a way out of this, but I see none. 10% of the population holds the rest of us hostage from even trying something, anything, to stop this.

Another day in America.

 

You are simply proving the fact that localized gun regulations don't work when neighboring localities have loose or no gun regulations. So the correct point is national gun regulations are needed. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

And you miss the obvious point that there are already 300 million guns in the country that aren’t leaving.

 

An obvious point that doesn't prevent the United States from implementing common sense and reasonable gun laws, none of which prevent American citizens from owning guns.

 

I have about 50 on my list. @MojoMan is on it. Some I’ve taken off, because they quit rolling and never made bigoted posts. It takes a lot of trolling for me to put someone on ignore. Open bigotry towards any group? That gets someone on it right away. I just won’t put up with it. That makes up the vast majority I’ve ignored. Many have since been banned, so I should update it and remove them. Just more trouble than I want to go to, so it should really be a lower number.

There are some that I have on ignore for incessant trolling who still post around here. Some post often in the GARM and Hangout and are fine there, which is a little weird. It’s why I’ve asked @Clutch to give supporting members the ability to make the ignore option “forum specific.” That way, I don’t have to put on ignore those who only visit this sub-form to troll. I can put them on ignore for D&D, but see their posts everywhere else. He said it was a good idea and he’ll look into it. That could take a while, since he’s really busy, but that’s OK.

I’m sure you can think of at least a couple of those. The serial D&D trollers. The “open bigotry” members I have on ignore? They’ll stay there and I’m happy not to see any of their posts. I’ll put up with the more subtle bigotry for a while, but not indefinitely. Sometimes I suspect that it’s part of a trolling shtick, that they view themselves as “not really bigoted,” which is really sick if true.

So there you are. More about how and why I put members on ignore than you could ever want to know.

 

While the rest of the nation wrestles with two horrible mass shootings...

 

So let’s do nothing while people die?. Why not make gun owner’s and manufactures have to require insurance. We do it for cars etc. Why not have gun owners and manufactures carry insurance. Also since obviously you’re against regulating guns. Why not have gun manufacturers and people who buy guns be taxed. The rest of society has to pay for the added security at events now. So make them pay for the added cops we need to protect soft targets.

 

So when the people who have unregistered firearms kill people, are you going to cry about how they didn't have insurance on it?

 

Well the guns had to be made in the first place and yes we need to have people bare responsibility. Having lethal weapons come with responsibility. If you want to own a gun. Get liability insurance for it. I am also targeting manufactures as well.

 

What I don’t get is why people fight sensible gun regulations. We have regulations on other dangers such as cars why not for guns.

 

Wow... isn't the washington examiner a conservative paper?

 

Yes, it most certainly is. For the newspaper to publish that is very remarkable. Stunning, actually, since they are calling out trump. It's worth posting the entire editorial, so I will. Thanks for pointing it out.




Trump must name and condemn the evil of white nationalism

by Washington Examiner
| August 05, 2019 12:00 AM
You could call the killer who shot up a Walmart in El Paso evil, a madman, or a lone wolf, if you like. But it would be an intolerable omission if we did not also call him a white nationalist terrorist. This ideology is a growing sickness in America, and President Trump has a duty to thoroughly and roundly denounce it.


Trump ought to use the bully pulpit to become a leading crusader against white nationalism and racism. These mindsets are immoral and they threaten everything that makes America great. Some conservatives and Republicans have hesitated to acknowledge that this a growing scourge, but after El Paso any such reluctance is unacceptable.

The shooter is a white man from Dallas who traveled to El Paso so he could murder as many “Mexicans” as possible. He targeted Mexicans and Mexican-Americans because he held a vision of America as a white nation.

This vision, while un-American and non-conservative, is wedded to an ideology. And just as conservatives regularly call on our leaders to name and condemn the evil of radical Islamic terror when it is behind shootings and bombings, we call on Trump to name and condemn the evil of white nationalism.

Yes, there are many evils in this country, but that shouldn't stop Trump from undertaking a targeted attack on this specific evil.

Following a white nationalist march in Charlottesville in 2017, a man drove his car into a crowd of counter-protesters, trying to kill as many as possible. He injured many and murdered Heather Heyer. Trump famously and shamefully equivocated, refusing to name and condemn the evil behind this act of vehicular terrorism and instead mouthing vague words about “both sides.”

A white man in Kentucky shot up a black church in October 2018, telling one terrified white bystander “whites don’t shoot whites.”

The man who murdered 11 at a Pittsburgh synagogue called Jews “the enemy of white people.”

A majority of domestic terrorism cases are motivated by white supremacism, according to Christopher Wray, the man Trump has put in charge of the FBI. So why hasn’t Trump spoken out against our leading source of domestic terrorism?

There are many possible explanations, but we suspect part of it is the same reason he has failed to acknowledge and condemn Russian interference in our election and other Russian misdeeds. When the media and the Democrats use some real evil as a cudgel for attacking Trump, his instinct seems to be to deny the evil rather than to dissociate himself from it.

Plenty in the media and in politics blame Trump for the rise of white nationalism. Many of them are the same folks who have always argued that conservatism — whether tax cuts, defense of the unborn, or belief in free enterprise — is just thinly veiled racism, and on these grounds alone they don't deserve to be taken seriously. Even so, a president has to be above the blame game played by his critics. The single best way to prove them wrong would be for Trump to crusade actively against white nationalism.

Trump should deliver a prime-time speech as soon as possible that names the evil at play here and denounces it. He has on Twitter rightly condemned the actions in El Paso. Now he needs to face the cameras, address the nation, and condemn the motivation. Trump needs to make clear that he hates white nationalism as something un-American and evil. And he ought not dilute this attack by talking again about "many" or "both" sides, by offering up nonconstructive criticisms of liberals which (intentionally or not) stoke racial tensions, or any other such distraction.

An evil and increasingly violent ideology threatens to inflict even deeper wounds to this country. President Trump has an opportunity — and yes, a duty — to name this evil and condemn it.

 

[Educational Post]
Our Constitutional right to keep and bear arms is the ULTIMATE check on government power. It is what gives voice and power to the people and prevents the enforcement of unjust laws. It's what prevents dictatorships and rule by martial law (see Venezuela literally today). Liberals' trust in government is at record low levels, yet like fools they advocate to get rid of the very instrument that provides the ultimate check against government power. The founding fathers went on and on about why an armed populace was important FOR THIS VERY REASON. Students of world history appreciate it. Students of US history appreciate it. Emotional liberals do not. The 2nd Amendment is the absolute key to why our democracy is protected.

GOOD DAY

 

Other than some random insignificant voices, who is advocating getting rid of guns?