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Hey Tilman, here's an example of "Whatever It Takes"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mathloom, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    1) Guess what Tily, they are not certain to win the title and they are paying the LT. $129M and $138M committed to their four max players. Minimum players would love to play there. They still spent money. And will get minimum/MLE signings. It's called believing instead of hiding like a little b*tch behind the idea that you know what's worth the LT and what's not.

    2) Tily, when they lost KD, they acquired Russell. Not because he's going to win them anything, but because adding productive salary is the best way to be able to trade your way to a contending roster. You will understand when they swap Russell for Covington and Teague and tear up the final 2 months of the season going into the playoffs. If you were running the Warriors, you would be signing minimum players and contemplating whether to trade Draymond or Thompson for an upgrade.

    3) Tily, halfway into Morey's career, the Warriors were not raking in gate receipts and tv money. Guess how that happened.

    4) You have a GM who has the 2nd best wins per dollar over the past 15 years. Guess what happens if you let him spend LT money.

    Tilman is a major obstacle for this team, even if Les was too.
     
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    Foxsports suggested trade: DLo for Tobias Harris, make both teams better.

    Tilman should give Gordon extension, extension max is cheaper.
     
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    To be honest op that's about playing the guys that built you a new arena that did win. Plus they also have a pretty good chance to win again with 4 allstars. So I dont see the whatever it takes applying here lol. But hey bash Tillman lol.
     
  4. don grahamleone

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    What's up with the inferiority complex? Are you mad that other teams didn't give us their players for free during the CP trade so we could increase our payroll? We've got Russell Westbrook now. Don't forget to celebrate a little. That's pretty big news.
     
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    People act like that core of 3 superstars didn’t win 72 games in a year. They still have star power and they have the best chemistry out of all the contenders.
     
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    that’s a pretty good deal for Draymond
     
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    I don’t think GS are title contender, 7 players are 23 or younger. Half team.

    Young players don’t win championships.

    Bench combination WCS and Spellman are comparable to starters Capela and Tucker?
     
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    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard

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    Meanwhile down the street at Minute Maid...

     
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    Complaining about the owner will get you far lol
    At least you can do it every day of your existence.
     
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    I dont understand why people want to defend Tilman... I thought Les was given undeserved grief from fans - but at least he didnt run his mouth like Tilman does...

    I understand its a business... I get it... paying huge dollars for someone like Iggy prob isnt a wise financial move... no prob, again its a business... but for Gods sake - stfu...

    jus sayin... lol
     
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    I don't get it. Do we have 4 players we should commit $130M to in order to match this feat?
     
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    Guys, if you look in my thread history, you will find the thread I created after Durant went down saying we're still facing a 72-win team (and getting bashed for it). I know what the Warriors are without KD. I know that Curry is the constant in their insane dynasty.

    DLo is a paper all star and the Warriors know winners. He will be gone. They can not win anything with the roster as its currently constructed. Barnes/Iggy/Bogut/Livingston mattered in their best times. Expensive role players matter. That's why they will trade Russell the all star for 2 great rotation pieces. It will be 3 All Stars.

    You think Tilman is willing to pay for that? lol

    The Warriors past 7-8 years displays an ownership that is willing to spend beforehand and take risks to win. This is a continuation of that culture. The competition is much better than they faced, and that 72-win team lost in the Finals btw. Nothing is guaranteed, and less so now than they had to face before.

    The Rockets are the exact opposite, and even worse with Tilman.
     
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    I didn't realize the Warriors just lucked into this situation. My bad.
     
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    Here's two things that are lingering around like a wet fart

    Take care of ego. We didn't win it all like donkey, but he's been instrumental to our success and chemistry.

    Put MDA in a position of success...Or drop him and own it.

    Quit the cable reality show posturing already.
     
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    Some of you guys are getting annoying, man. Give it a rest.
     
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    And that team is done winning Championships.
     
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    And they all will be over 30 this season. Plus they don't have the same bench. No Iggy. Thompson will be coming off an ACL. The Warriors are done as title contenders.
     
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    Tilman sucks. Not much else to say about it really.
     
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    POS is not willing to go all in b/c he wants guaranteed income from this business. if there was no doubt we were getting the #1 seed and gonna steamroll to the finals, he'd probably pay for more depth knowing he'd surely recoup it all with gate revenue thru 4 rounds. but exactly opposite of what he claims in public, he is literally counting every mil spent here trying to maximize his take-home profits at the end of each season. POS boasts himself as a wildcatter when in reality he's just a shortsighted frightened p***y socking away every nickel & dime that falls into his sweaty palms
     
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    They might also be past winning championships for couple more years, who knows.

    Klay seems to believe, he'll come back as Superman, more explosive, we'll see.
     
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