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trump's nativist/racist tweets

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jul 14, 2019.

  1. NewRoxFan

    NewRoxFan Contributing Member

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    Jeff Flake...

     
  2. BruceAndre

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    Who said I had integrity? :D BTW, it's entirely possible to like some parts of presidential policy, while detesting others.

    I don't like Trump's love of the police state, for example. But no one here (at least in this thread) cares about that.

    BTW, I voted for the dude that wears pink shirts and doesn't know where Aleppo is. :oops:

    You appear to fulfil the old saying: "Democrats want to fall in love; Republicans want to fall in line."

    I don't have to love Trump to enjoy what he is doing now. It's beautiful. :D
     
  3. mick fry

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    But Warren really seems nice, batshit crazy but nice.
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    I'm sure you feel happy that I have female family members who happen to wear hijabs being harrassed by MAGA Individuals.
     
  5. BruceAndre

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    I don't think Jeff Flake or Mitt Romney are Republicans (maybe of the RINO variety).
     
  6. BruceAndre

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    Well, she did have a beer in a blue collar bar. That was so natural and non-scripted.:D
     
  7. JayGoogle

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    It really is sad that some people just can't say "Trump was wrong for saying this..." in one fashion or another and move on.

    Instead, they have to defend, deflect, repeat.

    Reminds me of this Trump supporter.

    Trump could say literally anything and his cult members will defend and deflect and the moderate conservatives that say nothing approve of it.

    Says the guy that doesn't have to deal with it.
     
  8. Nook

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    People, even people in the Midwest are potentially going to get sick of Trump's statements and lies.

    As it is, a lot of his popularity I see in the Midwest isn't enthusiastic.

    Many of the people I speak to admit that Trump isn't terribly truthful and they do not really even like his "take it or leave it" attitude and don't even agree with his comments directed at other people.

    They vote for Trump because they believe that his position on immigration will financially help their working class families. I know a lot of second and third generation Hispanics in places like Mendota Illinois that support Trump because it means less job competition and likely higher wages.

    Also, because he at least targets blue collar workers and their families, that gives him a huge advantage. The Democrats haven't even attempted to appeal to that group. These voters don't have student loans, they don't live in large cities, they see their small towns suffering from a lack of jobs that pay over $10 an hour. So while they know Trump is full of **** about coal or a lot of what he says, they are willing to over look it because at least he considers their needs.

    The problem is that if the winds blow even slightly, he can lose a lot of those voters because they do not like him really. The Democrats have had opportunities to take back those blue collar voters since the Presidential victory. Instead they have focused on what Trump says, and the housing of border immigrants and his dealings with Iran and North Korea. While all of these are important and should be discussed, they should NOT be the Democrats top concern at all. When the Democrats have discussed policy, it has dealt with student loans or possibly socialized medicine. The Democrats could win on the socialized medicine point in the Midwest, but it is too often discussed in the context of student loan forgiveness. The folks in rural Ohio or Indiana have ZERO sympathy for millenials complaining about student loans.

    IF there is a democrat candidate that emerges, that is somewhat relatable to the rural voters and can push policy that is beneficial, Trump very well loses a lot of his rural support..... but I don't see a Clinton or Obama in the field. I don't see anyone that will compromise on immigration and also push for things that the small towns in the middle of the country want.
     
  9. mick fry

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    She had a blood test ran to prove she drank a beer and she had an alcohol content of.0001% so she is a drinker.
     
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    As DesSha told me at a court call a few years ago........ there are very few white men living that have ****ed over black folks with the glee and success as Don King.
     
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    As I've said many times, a significant portion of the country are garbage human beings and bigots. The Republican Party and its supporters check those boxes just about every day. Just straight trash.
     
  12. Deckard

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    Not exactly what you're looking for though, is it.
     
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    I take the majority of this post as voters have a choice between voting for someone they "like" personally or someone who more closely represents their views and concerns.

    I'm predicting the majority of them are going to vote policy over popularity. Putting up with Trump's personality is a small price to pay if they believe he can also deliver prosperity.
     
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    Why would you say that?
     
  15. CometsWin

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    It has been a tremendous mistake for the Democratic Party to continue ignoring blue collar voters in favor of this completely loser immigration issue. It totally pisses me off. Now you've got elected Dems and candidates basically advocating open borders. What a crock. They should stop trying to please the Twiterrati and people who can't even god damn vote over addressing blue collar voters and their needs. It's freaking incredible really. It's the kind of thing that pushes me back towards the independent column.
     
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    I think these tweets would be a good opportunity for a censure vote by Congress instead of their twitter denunciations. It's not like some racist tweets are enough grounds for an impeachment or anything, but it's too cheap for senators and reps to just tweet their disapproval and do nothing. Censure doesn't have any teeth, but I wonder if they could even get enough Republican votes to pass one.
     
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    I understand this is your sentiment, and there may even be a lot of truth to it. Historically when we look back on the past we are not happy with a lot of the beliefs held.......... however, this attitude is also the type that will result in Donald Trump winning re-election. You can stay on your high horse at the top of your ivory castle and piss on those you view beneath you...... or you can figure out how to appeal to them and how to win their votes.

    There are a lot of voters that do not agree with a lot of what the President says or how he conducts himself, that will vote for him because he at least makes an effort to appeal to them.

    The best way to end the Trump tweets and the conditions at the border, is to beat Donald Trump and steer the country more towards the center.
     
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  18. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    I am sorry, but the hey-Don-King-likes-me! defense is so ****ing hilarious that I applaud 45 for it. Bravo! He must surely know how freaking funny that is.

    Troll level ==> mastery.

    I mean, he should next tweet a clip of Clayton Bigsby.
     
  19. Deckard

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    It's an impression I got based on reading your recent posts.
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    I guess we have very different experiences with conservative voters.

    Conservatives will eat up populist messages about how corporations are buying our politicians. Hell they will eat up populist socialist messages like "everyone is going to have wonderful healthcare" as Trump repeated many times during his campaign.

    But they only accept that populist messages when there is a racial nativist element attached with it similar to pre-Nazi regime rhetoric in Germany. "We want healthcare for all German citizens but we can't do it unless we kick out all the inferior people who are a drain to society and all the people who allow them in(Jews)".

    When it comes to other Latinos who agree with Trump on his nativist rhetoric about illegals... I see that to with a few Individuals also amongst the Bangladeshi immigrant community as well and honestly it has a lot do with a lack of self-awareness. Part of the reason why I respect my parents is they don't fall into that trap. My parents were lucky. They were born into upper class families in Bangladesh. They attended the best private schools that country had to offer. Yes, they did their part by putting in the effort in school to be accepted into American universities and have them sponser student visas. But they acknowledge that 99% of Bangladeshi citizens have absolutely zero avenue to immigrate here besides shear luck and are empathic towards those who come here through illegal means. There are a few Bangladeshi immigrants I know of who arrived here through family ties such as their son sponsering them who also have similar views about how illegals are bad people because they "cut the line". From interacting with these people I've learned that their motivations are purely from a desire to be on a high horse where they are not seen as the lowest part of the American totem pole.

    There really isn't much hard evidence that illegal immigrants depress wages especially the type of manufacturing jobs they desperately want. Midwestern voters aren't angry about the economy because fruit pickers aren't being paid enough. They will find ways to believe illegal AND legal immigrants are the problem because that is what they want to believe.
     

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