What's the difference between what LeBron did in 2010 vs Kawhi, this year? Or, even KD 3 years ago.

I don't think its all that different from what LeBron did... Which I had no problem with.

KD joined the team that he couldn't beat... It blows my mind that people still don't see the difference.

 

I think he's trying to enforce a consistency within everyone, so that they like or dislike KL exactly as they regard KD &LBJ. The problem is that's an arbitrarily defined consistency- while He primarily sees the parallels among all three players' behavior and circumstances, many of the rest of us will focus more on differences, and will value accordingly.

Get used to this type of thread though, agree or disagree, it's part of the natural cycle, rise and fall, root then hate... KL might be getting a little too much praise for this latest ring & now the power move, and over praise always sparks an amplified backlash of hate, and efforts to get others to hate as much as they do.

I don't take away from any of their rings. I like anyone have my favorite to hate & honk,even though they all did it in different ways, all played within the rules however much we like the path each took to get there, that's just how fandom works. We all have our own recipe of what we like in a player.

 

Apples vs oranges

1. Kawhi has 2 rings lebron and kd at the time were ringless
2. Kd joined a 3 superstar 73 win team defending champs after losing to them in the wcfs
3. Lebron moved with a another supertar to a playoffs team.with already 1 superstar who has already a ring
4. Kawhi with his 2 rings moved with another superstar with no ring to a starless team which didnt even make the playoffs last year

 

I'm more impressed with how Leonard lobbied other superstars before this all broke down.

Dude tried to get kd, even if kd's obvious goal now is to nut up by doing things the "hard way" as top dog.

Gluten-free Cupcake...

 

Lmao...

The spurs nor the Raptors are winning rings without leonard on those rosters. Get real.

 

hawaii is a bish because he didn't force his way to houston, amirite? rockets is the awesomest team in all of sports, hence players who don't come here are bishes.

 

Toronoo was a forced stopover cos Spurs wouldnt trade him to the clippers like he wanted.

Clippers were always his preferred destination and it only took so long cos he wasnt willing to be a lone superstar on the team.

I personally find Lebron and KD moves more honorable - they played out their contracts and left as free agents while Kawhi (and Davis) did not act in good faith to their franchises, forcing their exits to their preferred destinations..

 

Same nature, much less severe.

Stars players banding together is no longer a new thing. LeBron pretty much started all that with "The Decision." He got a lot of flak for that and deservedly so.

Durant outdid LeBron by joining a historically stacked team.

What Leonard did was no different from what a lot of other stars trying to recruit other stars to join them. It has become the accepted norm. The banana boat, remember?

 

Nope you could have place any 3 &D wing on that 2014 team and they would have won a ring. If you put Rudy Gay on that team instead of Kawhi they still ring. Kawhi was great in the finals that year but he didn't do **** in the series against the Cavs or the Thunder.

 

With kd its wasnt even about leaving it was where he went to

 

Yeah they would've been just fine without the finals MVP.

 

Well, Kawhi looks like he's going to be more popular after his moves while LeBron and Durant's universal popularity took big hits after theirs. In a world where LeBron doesn't make a spectacle out of his decision, he probably doesn't need to return to Cleveland, open up a school, and pretend he's woke just to regain popularity. In a world where Durant chooses any other team to go to, he probably doesn't feel a need to create burner accounts due to all the criticism of joining a historic team. I think all of their decisions boil down to their personalities, Durant and LeBron are emotional while Kawhi is anything but emotional.

 

KD went to a team that already won a championship. Lebron...would have been fine if he didn’t come out and do his whole the Decision thing and then to come out and say we are gonna win not one, not two, not three, not four, etc. That put the icing on the cake for everyone. Also Miami had won a championship already with Wade and Shaq so that factored into it as well. He would have gotten some slack but I don’t think people would have hated him as much if he took that aspect of his free agency out of it.

Kawhi is going to a team that has never won a thing. He did his whole free agency thing as much on the DL as he could. He didn’t want any leaks and just handled his business. He recruited one star to come with him instead of two or three. This league is wide open this year. There are 10 teams that could win it all. When Lebron went to the Heat everyone knew they were going to the finals. Same with KD going to the Warriors. The Warriors were a dynasty without KD and it just cemented them as even more a title contender.

 

He didn't lead the Finals in any category. He scored 18 points in the first two games and fouled out of game 2. Tony Parker was the best player Ron those Spurs and it wasn't close.

 

the spurs, their media, and fans did kawhi dirty when he was injured. misdiagnosed by their medical staff and called a faker by their media and fans.

when the raptors got hold of him they properly managed his injury so he'd be good to go in the playoffs.

 

If anything, Kawhi is doing the exact opposite of what KD did. He's leaving the DEFENDING CHAMPIONS, a team he straight up carried through several rounds in the playoffs. He's going to a team that's been one of the biggest jokes in the league for the entirety of it's existence. He went to the Clippers. The freaking Clippers, to hopefully bring them to their first conference finals, finals, and championship. He brought a star with him cause he knew how tough the west is now but it doesn't matter cause he already just won one as the only all nba guy on his team. He definitely took a harder or at least equally hard road unlike KD or LeBron.

 

Chill out, Skip. You act like Parker was robbed like Curry was when Igoudala won Final's MVP. The entire Spurs team played incredibly that series. They played beautiful basketball. Kawhi scored 1 less point than Parker while being the most efficient scorer in the series. He also led the Spurs in steals and blocks. He took the team's mantle during that series and neutralized LeBron's impact.

 

Difference is that he didn't join Lebron and AD that would create a "super team". It's duo star league right now.

 

If Kawhi did what these two had done, he would be roasted as well.

Imagine Kawhi having a live tv show where he breaks Toronto fans hearts on stage and pisses of the Lakers and Thunder fans, then parades with Paul George claiming they will be a dynasty.
People would be outraged and rightfully so.

Or imagine Kawhi after losing to GSW in the finals, then writing a Players Tribune about the hardest road and joins them.