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Rockets' MVP response tweet: good idea or bad idea?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Os Trigonum, Jun 25, 2019.

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Rockets' MVP response tweet

  1. Good idea: just calling it like it is

    114 vote(s)
    47.1%

  2. Bad idea: reflects poorly on the organization

    94 vote(s)
    38.8%

  3. Good idea: a championship-quality, Steve Kerr-like move

    21 vote(s)
    8.7%

  4. Bad idea: we've out-Kerred Steve Kerr

    22 vote(s)
    9.1%

  5. Good idea: any publicity is good publicity

    22 vote(s)
    9.1%

  6. Bad idea: just stoking the fires of Harden hate

    51 vote(s)
    21.1%

  7. Good idea: Giannis doesn't deserve the award

    31 vote(s)
    12.8%

  8. Bad idea: the Rockets deserve an unsportsmanlike behavior penalty

    23 vote(s)
    9.5%
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  1. Homey the Clown

    Homey the Clown Member

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    Petty just like the organization and its fanbase/Harden homers.
     
    #181 Homey the Clown, Jun 25, 2019
  2. jordnnnn

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    Player: offense / defense / total

    ESPNs Real Plus Minus

    Harden: 7.40 / 0.02 / 7.42
    Giannis: 3.16 / 3.53 / 6.69

    B-ball references Box plus minus

    Harden: 10.5 / 1.1 / 11.6
    Giannis: 5.7 / 5.0 / 10.7

    NBA Math’s total points added stat

    Harden: 613.99 / 64.32 / 678.31
    Giannis: 289.25 / 253.73 / 542.98
     
    #182 jordnnnn, Jun 25, 2019
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  3. dmoneybangbang

    dmoneybangbang Member

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    Of course!! Let’s blame Harden too! And CP3! And Capela! And Tucker! Let’s blame Turd Brown! Cheapskate owner Tillman and Les!
     
    #183 dmoneybangbang, Jun 25, 2019
  4. coachbadlee

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    It was a terrible idea. Plain and simple.
     
    #184 coachbadlee, Jun 25, 2019
  5. PrinceH

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    I guess it squashes any Harden could be traded rumours
     
    #185 PrinceH, Jun 25, 2019
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    All of the above.
     
    #186 Mr. Clutch, Jun 25, 2019
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    It is really petty, but if your star player has an ego that needs to be stroked, you gotta get out the loufa.

    DD
     
    #187 DaDakota, Jun 25, 2019
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  8. pahiyas

    pahiyas Member

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    Non Issue.
    BUT, the very first argument of the tweet is irrelevant! How can you win this case?
     
    #188 pahiyas, Jun 25, 2019
  9. francis 4 prez

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    sure, it's up for debate. but harden's volume was an order of magnitude above giannis'. wasn't his combination of points and assists per possession unprecendented? this wasn't just a slight edge. no one has ever scored as much as harden with a TS% as high as harden's. no one. so yes giannis had a very good offensive season (he is also very efficient), but it just wasn't on harden's level offensively.

    the sixers did that. giannis got smoked 4 games straight to lose his series. and blew a huge 4th quarter lead in game 6 to boot.

    i think it's the fact he won by a massive margin. just like westbrook did. somehow these supposedly incredibly divisive debates always end up as landslides for the non-harden player (reminds me of reggie bush vs vince young being this big debate and then bush somehow winning by one of the largest margins ever, but that ended with a nice hakeem/robinson moment).
     
    #189 francis 4 prez, Jun 25, 2019
  10. francis 4 prez

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    you're foolishly focusing on totals and overall impact, but just look how much more even giannis' numbers are on offense and defense. that means he's a 2-way player. and don't you know, 2 > 1. ipso facto, mvp.
     
    #190 francis 4 prez, Jun 25, 2019
  11. PlayBall

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    Fair enough - and lol my bad on the Philly/Milwaukee screw up.

    And yes, I agree Giannis's season wasn't as good as Harden's offensively. And Harden's was far inferior to Giannis's defensively. Definitely a decision where reasonable people will have different opinions.

    But to me that's the key word: reasonable. Half this board is acting like Harden was passed over for someone who had no place even being in the MVP debate.
     
    #191 PlayBall, Jun 25, 2019
  12. tinman

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    We should only care about getting FINALS MVP
     
    #192 tinman, Jun 25, 2019
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  13. Easy

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    If we shouldn't care about what the media think of us, then why do we care about the MVP award which is voted by the media?
     
    #193 Easy, Jun 25, 2019
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  14. glimmertwins

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    I don’t see what the big deal is - literally anything Houston does will be viewed through the lens of how much they suck so why bother trying to stay on the good side of a whole world of people who are actively looking for any reason to support their preconceived narrative that Houston sucks.

    If Houston’s twitter account just said ‘congrats Giannis’ - people would say even Harden’s own organization didn’t believe in him. The whole sports narrative era is out of control stupid. Don’t argue with stupid - they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
     
    #194 glimmertwins, Jun 25, 2019
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  15. Os Trigonum

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    he's right you know.jpg
     
    #195 Os Trigonum, Jun 25, 2019
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  16. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Who gives a ****?!? Media and casual fans all hate us already. A tweet is not going to change anything.
     
    #196 chenjy9, Jun 25, 2019
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  17. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Because MVP still means something to Harden and he is the only player where the goalposts move every time he is in contention for it.

    1. Year of Curry - Winning is all that matters
    2. Year of Westbrook - Worthless trip dub is all that matters
    3. Year of Harden - Many people wanted to give it to LBJ despite missing a quarter of the season.
    4. Year of Giannis - Go back to Westbrook argument

    Personally, I don't give a **** about what the media thinks. I do recognize that the award means something to players however. I also see the hypocrisy in how that award is given which is annoying.
     
    #197 chenjy9, Jun 25, 2019
  18. mig0s

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    Y'all think the social media guy who wrote this gonna get fired?
     
    #198 mig0s, Jun 25, 2019
  19. BMoney

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    I like that our team supports our players. If the rest of the NBA and social media is up in arms about a f-ing tweet?
    Good.
     
    #199 BMoney, Jun 25, 2019
  20. bullman0036

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    If the Rockets organization doesn’t support the man who carried the team for the entire season, who will?

    Media narrative is totally BS nowadays. If anything, this past two weeks only tells us Rockets doesn’t have a strong marketing/PR department.
     
    #200 bullman0036, Jun 25, 2019
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